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Post by Q. Valintyne on Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:29 pm

From Ito:
"I don't know about Travis at all."
Still, that leaves Kollar open to give his insights on if they were inspired by this image in SH3.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Hazardsfury on Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:23 pm

O.o He replied, shame about the response though... but still maybe Kollar can give some insight.
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Post by Aerith on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:16 am

Eh, I don't think the picture influenced Travis in 0rigins. I think it looks like a teenage boy with a baseball cap and letterman jacket on.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Q. Valintyne on Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:55 pm

Got an email back from Andor:

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I got from the customer a very low quality Travis character (I think from an earlier game), I made a upgraded re-modelled/re-textured character for the Origins game.

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That could mean a variety of things. It could mean he received an early build of Climax's character and was tasked with upscaling him, or it came from earlier SH source. As much as I want to think the latter, it's probably the former. I think in order to get a concrete answer regarding the concept of Travis would be better directed towards the writer of SH: Origins or game director. I can't find their contact info anywhere, though. :(
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Hazardsfury on Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:21 pm

Awwww I so hope it's the latter, I wonder if the low res model.. is similar to the one pictured?. Also just to note I've tweeted a question to one of the senior designers on the project, hope he'll get back to us on it!

The thing is... it's not like he doesn't make sense appearing in SH 3.. Since origins is canon, essentially he is part of Alessa/Cheryl/Heather's memories.. so it would be cool to tie him to the third game somewhat.
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Post by Q. Valintyne on Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 am

I sent the image posted here to him in the original email, so I don't know if he was referring to that or not.

I hope you have better luck than I have. :lol:
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Hazardsfury on Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:02 pm

Just having a conversation with Sam Barlow on twitter at the moment, he says the design was already locked in, by the sounds of it by Konami... Trying to get some more info, sent him the image.
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Post by Q. Valintyne on Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:13 pm

Ooooh. That's awesome. :D Be sure to post all of your details here as you get them!
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Hazardsfury on Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:28 pm

Haha I shall :)
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Post by NarooN on Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:12 pm

So the Travis design was already in existence before Origins? Hmm, this seems pretty cool. Maybe KCET had plans for Origins at some point.
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Post by hairymason on Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:52 pm

Judging by the pictures, it looks quite possible they had planned to foreshadow a prequel(is that possible) both deal with Allessa, as in Heather is allessa. So quite possible. Or maybe coincidence. But I don't believe in coincidence.
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Post by Q. Valintyne on Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:06 am

That's what I'm hoping, @NarooN. I think that would just be awesome. :lol:

It'd definitely be an interesting blow to some in the community if it comes to light that Origins was a KCET plan all along.

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Post by Hazardsfury on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:51 am

hairymason wrote:Judging by the pictures, it looks quite possible they had planned to foreshadow a prequel(is that possible) both deal with Allessa, as in Heather is allessa. So quite possible. Or maybe coincidence. But I don't believe in coincidence.


I most certainly don't believe in coincidence either +}

- Also just got in contact with Tomm, it's a long shot but maybe he'll get in contact with me. :)
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Post by GreyChild on Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:10 pm

Its possible that someone who worked on origins could have seen this and used it as a format for travis. Who knows.
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Post by BleuPyramid on Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:09 am

To understand the design of Travis (and probably catch it's source) you should remember a bit about SH0 game's history, it was rumored first to be a remake of SH1, named Silent Hill: Original Sin and the intention of the producer was to tie it to the upcoming movie of Silent Hill, making it a remake but changing Harry for Rose Da Silva, but Konami didn't like the idea so then they decided to make it into a prequel, now after this they handed the project to Climax USA, but after a few gameplay concept previews (and a few issues), Konami decided to take the project from Climax USA and gave it to the UK team, they pretty much tossed away a lot of what was already done in this first stage, and remade the game in a more traditional SH shape (it was very RE4-looking in the first previews). But even so, if you see those first stages of development you can see Travis was already designed that way:

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What the designer replied in the email might mean that he got handed this basic model of Travis from Climax USA which he had to re-do (and from the previews of the first stage of development i can tell some the old models were AWFUL), the source and the first ideas behind it's design must come from Konami or from the sacked USA team.

It's an interesting find anyway, but even if Travis had his story with Alessa, i don't see how Heather would have his picture... She's 2 re-spawns away from that xD (Alessa-Cheryl-Heather). I still wish there was a way for her to have it, dunno if Harry had any contact or knowledge of Travis. May not work story wise (even tho i love the idea), but there is still some chance that there was already a plan for Travis to exist :), specially if Konami itself denied the idea of a Remake in pro of a prequel (probably adjusting to it's original plan ;D).
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Post by BillMurraylives on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:04 am

Most certainly, 100% a coincidence.
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Post by WhiteClaudia on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:33 pm

I doesn't even look like Travis to me. He has a hat? So does over half the population of men walking the Earth. :lol: Unless I'm colorblind, it's not even the same color. You can't see the persons face either.

Definitely coincidence.
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