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Should Anne have been a co-lead?

Post by Charles Phipps on Mon May 14, 2012 4:35 pm

Crazy idea.

But really, I think this game might have benefited from a (prepare for BLASPHEMY) Resident Evil 2 set up.

Anne and Murphy could have been co-protagonists without much alteration.

She's every bit the interesting hero as Murphy and their journeys wouldn't have required much re-working.

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Post by emma on Mon May 14, 2012 4:47 pm

hmm i don't get what you mean exactly but..XD!
you mean if they were corroborate together in what they have been through!? O.O...
as i think you do like her !;)
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Post by silenthillOG on Mon May 14, 2012 4:49 pm

I think it would have been cool but only if it was like RE2 with the dual disks. All that means is more game play in silent hill which I am always down for.
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Post by Charles Phipps on Mon May 14, 2012 4:51 pm

emma wrote:hmm i don't get what you mean exactly but..XD!
you mean if they were corroborate together in what they have been through!? O.O...
as i think you do like her !;)
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I was thinking the game would more or less let you choose which character to play at the start.

If you play Anne, like Heather, you add another Silent Hill protagonist whose a female.

Which is always good.

Anne could more or less follow the game exactly except you'd have slightly different cut-scenes.

At the end, instead of fighting Anne, she'd fight Murphy and have the option of sparing or killing him.

I love Anne, though, she's my third favorite Silent Hill character after James and Murphy.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Should Anne have been a co-lead?

Post by The Gentleman on Mon May 14, 2012 5:03 pm

I don't know about this, to me the mystery surrounding what Anne actually went through throughout the story is to me, one of the cleverest aspects of the plot and feeds into the unique way of telling another characters story from a different viewpoint, something that I don't think has really been done in the series before. I think adding a sub-scenario or DLC would just suck that element of mystery out of the plot.

And I agree, Anne was simply a great character, much like all the other characters in the game.
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Should Anne have been a co-lead?

Post by Charles Phipps on Mon May 14, 2012 5:07 pm

The Gentleman wrote:I don't know about this, to me the mystery surrounding what Anne actually went through throughout the story is to me, one of the cleverest aspects of the plot and feeds into the unique way of telling another characters story from a different viewpoint, something that I don't think has really been done in the series before. I think adding a sub-scenario or DLC would just suck that element of mystery out of the plot.

And I agree, Anne was simply a great character, much like all the other characters in the game.


True, but the same mystery would work I think for discovering Murphy's crime and so on.

Also, of course, the game could only hint at WHY she hates Murphy.

Just a thought. I seriously doubt the Developers are going to release a DLC "Anne Mode." Even if it would be cool.

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Post by The Gentleman on Mon May 14, 2012 5:16 pm

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The Gentleman wrote:I don't know about this, to me the mystery surrounding what Anne actually went through throughout the story is to me, one of the cleverest aspects of the plot and feeds into the unique way of telling another characters story from a different viewpoint, something that I don't think has really been done in the series before. I think adding a sub-scenario or DLC would just suck that element of mystery out of the plot.

And I agree, Anne was simply a great character, much like all the other characters in the game.


True, but the same mystery would work I think for discovering Murphy's crime and so on.

Also, of course, the game could only hint at WHY she hates Murphy.

Just a thought. I seriously doubt the Developers are going to release a DLC "Anne Mode." Even if it would be cool.

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The thing is though, even at the start of the game, Murphy's story is really all-but resolved. The only thing left for him to do is admit his actions didn't fix a single damn thing and be done with it. The impression I get is that he is being used by the town to resolve Anne's largely unfinished story and this was a curveball I really did not expect which works really well on it's own.

Though if two equally disturbed individuals went into town, then I think a RE2 style campaign would work brilliantly and help further explore the dynamics which exist between characters like James, Eddie, Angela, Murphy, ect.
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Post by MurphyPendleton on Mon May 14, 2012 5:20 pm

I think they should make a co-op 2 Player silent hill game. but back to the main point of this discussion haha, i think that anne would not be a very fun character to play as, the only time i think it would be fun is when
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Post by Charles Phipps on Mon May 14, 2012 5:25 pm

The thing is though, even at the start of the game, Murphy's story is really all-but resolved. The only thing left for him to do is admit his actions didn't fix a single damn thing and be done with it. The impression I get is that he is being used by the town to resolve Anne's largely unfinished story and this was a curveball I really did not expect which works really well on it's own.

Though if two equally disturbed individuals went into town, then I think a RE2 style campaign would work brilliantly and help further explore the dynamics which exist between characters like James, Eddie, Angela, Murphy, ect.


I disagree, to an extent.

Murphy has well and truly ruined his life by the start of the game. He's guilty of murder in the 1st degree and has presumably been framed for killing Coleridge. So he's never getting out of prison barring a miracle.

Anne's story is also almost done because as soon as she gets Murphy to maximum security, she's going to murder him. There's hints that she's not going to be able to go through with it but the fact is that the two of them are at the end of their stories.

It's Silent Hill throws them a curveball. Murphy has the chance to live a new life and Anne has a chance to escape her own desire for revenge. In a way, I think of both of them as equally disturbed but YMMV.

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Regarding Anne's journey, I'd assume it go more or less identical to Murphy. You could even keep the same moral choices. MURPHY is the one who has slipped off the rocks, taunting JP, and so on. That would just be the easiest way to do it.

Sadly, she'd have to lose her gun. :(
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Purramid_Head on Mon May 14, 2012 6:57 pm

No. I don't care about Ann. I got the Reverse ending first playthrough and I was pissed. Her back story isn't as interesting as Murph's. I sincerily cared less when they forced you into Ann's nightmare and then the reverse ending. She has little to no character development and she's boring, although I appreciate what they were trying to do.
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Post by Augophthalmoses on Mon May 14, 2012 8:02 pm

I liked Anne, but I wish she could have had more screentime and development. A DLC side scenario detailing her events through Silent Hill would be nice, but I won't get my hopes up. I wouldn't mind a Silent Hill that allowed you to pick from multiple characters a la Resident Evil 1 & 2, but I doubt that will ever happen.
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Post by Purramid_Head on Mon May 14, 2012 8:07 pm

They were so close with Silent Hill 2. I think it would be nice to have some more variety and character tie ins like that.
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Post by MurphyPendleton on Mon May 14, 2012 8:53 pm

Xuchilbara wrote:They were so close with Silent Hill 2. I think it would be nice to have some more variety and character tie ins like that.

I Honestly dont see how Silent Hill Downpour was anything like Silent Hill 2
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Post by Purramid_Head on Mon May 14, 2012 9:14 pm

MurphyPendleton wrote:
Xuchilbara wrote:They were so close with Silent Hill 2. I think it would be nice to have some more variety and character tie ins like that.

I Honestly dont see how Silent Hill Downpour was anything like Silent Hill 2



That's not what I said. I was replying to Aug.
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Post by Wren on Mon May 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Of course it would've added another 6 months or so to the release date, though.

I think they shared their stories in a pretty unique way for a SH, and if there's more positive responses to it, there will probably be more of this in future games. Probably to an even greater degree, too.
But I kinda like the way it was done here. The primary focus should always be on just one character, unless the characters really are totally equal in their telling of the tale.

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Post by Avianna on Mon May 14, 2012 11:57 pm

The Gentleman wrote:I don't know about this, to me the mystery surrounding what Anne actually went through throughout the story is to me, one of the cleverest aspects of the plot and feeds into the unique way of telling another characters story from a different viewpoint, something that I don't think has really been done in the series before. I think adding a sub-scenario or DLC would just suck that element of mystery out of the plot.

And I agree, Anne was simply a great character, much like all the other characters in the game.


THIS!

I think the most interesting part of the game was when I was like, "Okay, now my story is over... so why is the game still going?" And the last half was interesting cause its was like a story I didn't know was going on while I played as Murphy, but looking back, I could see glimpses. Murphy needed to go there and Anne needed him there; that realization was probably my favorite moment when thinking over the game after I was done playing it. Its Silent Hill 1st and kinda the first time I've seen it -storywise- in anything for a long time.

Kinda like the end of Aliens. Its like, "Dude, Ripley, the story is over. Where's the credits?! OOOOH! There's more to this story that I was expecting."
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Post by MurphyPendleton on Tue May 15, 2012 12:32 am

Xuchilbara wrote:
MurphyPendleton wrote:
Xuchilbara wrote:They were so close with Silent Hill 2. I think it would be nice to have some more variety and character tie ins like that.

I Honestly dont see how Silent Hill Downpour was anything like Silent Hill 2



That's not what I said. I was replying to Aug.

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Post by emma on Tue May 15, 2012 2:39 am

Charles Phipps wrote:
emma wrote:hmm i don't get what you mean exactly but..XD!
you mean if they were corroborate together in what they have been through!? O.O...
as i think you do like her !;)
xD^^


I was thinking the game would more or less let you choose which character to play at the start.

If you play Anne, like Heather, you add another Silent Hill protagonist whose a female.

Which is always good.

Anne could more or less follow the game exactly except you'd have slightly different cut-scenes.

At the end, instead of fighting Anne, she'd fight Murphy and have the option of sparing or killing him.

I love Anne, though, she's my third favorite Silent Hill character after James and Murphy.

oh i was also thinking g of that too before ..
O.O! how silly me yeah! XD again sorry U_U!
but after thinking ...it kinda reminds me of alone in the dark ...when you can chose Edward and Allen :/....i only enjoyed the story line with murphy ^,^~ that's all i can say !!XD
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Post by Silent_fan_1234 on Thu May 17, 2012 4:49 pm

I have a question. Was Murphy brought to Silent Hill because of Anne? Because she thought he killed her father? I'm confused about that, I don't think what Murphy did (to that fat guy) was bad. I guess it depends on what ending you get actually, but I'm assuming one of the good ones in canon.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Avianna on Thu May 17, 2012 7:56 pm

Silent_fan_1234 wrote:I have a question. Was Murphy brought to Silent Hill because of Anne? Because she thought he killed her father? I'm confused about that, I don't think what Murphy did (to that fat guy) was bad. I guess it depends on what ending you get actually, but I'm assuming one of the good ones in canon.


I think that with the new canon stuff that the new developers are trying to convey is this: Although Murphy was brought to Silent Hill for Anne's reasons, he still in Silent Hill. And because he's there, he has to deal with his past demons as well. Just like everyone else.
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