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You're over-thinking it lol. The purpose of Born From a Wish was to show where Maria came from. She was literally "born from a wish" -- a wish by James. Maria didn't have anything to do with Amy, other than helping Ernest realize how she died so he could move on to the afterlife.

In my first though, the wish is from James. But Ernest recognize Maria that prefer doesn't know who is. There is also the milk...

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That bottle with white liquid we pick with some difficulties and didn't has a purpose in the end.

So my mind start to overthink as you said. I my opinion this sub-scenario could be more objective because a combination of two scenarios with a lot of open questions each one, create multiplies possibilities, too many, in a way that we kind lost perspective. Maybe that's why we see so many theories around with very different points of view.

Yeah, she definitely came from James.

The white liquid is part of the resurrection ritual. I think James can get this item in subsequent playthroughs as part of the Rebirth ending. It's implied that Ernest was trying to get the required items for the ritual, but was killed on his journey to do so (hence the body outside the mansion), thus, he's trapped in the mansion. Remember how in SH3, Heather can find a newspaper detailing how the souls of those who died by suicide or very suddenly often don't even realize they're dead, and will stay and haunt the place they died at? There's graffiti outside the mansion that says "BEWARE HAUNTED MANSION!"

By the end of this scenario, Ernest finally realizes why and how his daughter died, so he's at peace with himself and no longer has any reason to attempt the ritual. He then passes on to the afterlife which is why he isn't seen in the room when Maria opens the door.

I think that's the general idea. But Ernest said that he always remember Amy, never forgotten. I think what is keeping him in the house is that he was stopped during his search for the elements to do the magic spell. He is tortured by the fact he no longer exists and cannot perform the ritual. In that case, Maria was born from Ernest wish. But when she bring the milk, Ernest give up and accept the fate of he and Amy - he recover peace. So he "send" Maria to James in a selfless act and take his way to afterlife.

Way a minute... let me hold my tears!!!

But Maria got her own mystery: why she wants to kill herself? Maybe they just want to give her a real life, including bad parts...

One thing is certain: Mary got nothing to do with Maria.

gustavopi wrote:One thing is certain: Mary got nothing to do with Maria.

Wait... what?

He said that he never forgot her and the day she died, but what caused him so much grief was the fact that he didn't know *why* she died. He felt that she was taken away from him unfairly. He could still do the ritual, and he technically was there, hence him being surprised that "[she] was the only one who could see him". He was confined to the mansion like I said, so he couldn't leave to get the materials.

I'm pretty sure Ernest didn't have anything to do with Maria's "birth" though. She just happened to wander upon that mansion and find Ernest. We can assume he was in there for a long time ("so long..."), so if she really was born from *his* wish, she would've popped up much earlier most likely.

As for Maria being suicidal, probably because she recovered some of Mary's memories and has realized exactly what she is. However, you can see her figure something out and come to the conclusion that she exists solely for James, and she goes off to find him.

At the beginning of her scenario she talks about how she is all alone and leads us to believe this is why she is contemplating suicide. She doesn't want to live by herself and if there isn't anyone left then she wants to die.
Ernest leads us to believe that he had gathered the first three items for the ritual of rebirth and something happened to him before he could gather the White Chrism from the apartment. He wasn't able to leave the mansion after that mysterious event.
I do like your interpretation of though. It's not wholly absurd to think that Maria was led to the mansion by Ernest's wish and ended up finding what she needed through his ability to know the unknown.

voodoohandbag wrote:
gustavopi wrote:One thing is certain: Mary got nothing to do with Maria.

Wait... what?

I mean the birth. She is not there because of Mary, but because James or Ernest, or both. But she doesn't wanna live alone in the nightmare, what keep she alive is the fact that she is not alone and got meaning. Humm, now things start to make sense.

But some people seams to have the same trouble that James about Mary:

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Can't accept the fact that she's dead, is not in the town and is not coming back. Is not in Maria, Laura or whatsoever, and the ritual probably will not work. She's gone! Face it!

gustavopi wrote:I mean the birth. She is not there because of Mary, but because James or Ernest, or both. But she doesn't wanna live alone in the nightmare, what keep she alive is the fact that she is not alone and got meaning. Humm, now things start to make sense.

But some people seams to have the same trouble that James about Mary:
REVEAL SPOILER
Can't accept the fact that she's dead, is not in the town and is not coming back. Is not in Maria, Laura or whatsoever, and the ritual probably will not work. She's gone! Face it!

So, if I understand what you are implying, Maria can only 'remain' if she has a purpose to do so. Similar to Ernest's purpose for 'remaining' was to solve the mystery of his daughter's unfair death and give her life, even though I do believe he was blaming himself for her death up until Maria told him what happened. Maria's purpose for 'remaining' becomes mapped onto the closest individual to her? First to Ernest, then when he leaves, to James. It was possible she would disappear after Ernest left had he not told her about James. This could account for her gaining Mary's memories over the course of the game.
Very ingenious idea there.

gustavopi wrote:I mean the birth. She is not there because of Mary, but because James or Ernest, or both. But she doesn't wanna live alone in the nightmare, what keep she alive is the fact that she is not alone and got meaning. Humm, now things start to make sense.

But some people seams to have the same trouble that James about Mary:
REVEAL SPOILER
Can't accept the fact that she's dead, is not in the town and is not coming back. Is not in Maria, Laura or whatsoever, and the ritual probably will not work. She's gone! Face it!

I suppose that makes sense. Although I do like the theory that Mary's spirit also influenced Silent Hill while James was there, because Maria seemed to know things that James wouldn't.

Disclaimer - I'm not saying one theory or another is right

I think Maria knows what James knows and is avoiding. He also became responsible for her - witch is other hard job for him, but is the first step for he face reality and move on. These are very cool aspect about this game!

Personally I thought her side story was boring but I did enjoy exploring the mansion. It's great in answering questions but in my opinion I thought Ernest's character was lame and I lol'd when Maria asked if his last name was Hemingway.

I loved BFAW, there's a type of mix between RE and SH in it.

Mothersdecent wrote:I loved BFAW, there's a type of mix between RE and SH in it.

I never really thought of that. That's actually a pretty interesting thought. It seemed more like RE than the original SH.

Now that Mothersdecent mentioned, I think there is some of RE here. I remember RE3 begin with her depressed and thinking about what happens in the city, she got a gun in hand and she decided to survive and get out of the city. But I think RE3 was made before SH2, so maybe RE3 got some of SH BFAW...

Eh? RE3 came out before BFAW did. RE3 = 1999 and BFAW = 2002 lol.

Still, I don't think they really thought of RE3 or RE in general when they did BFAW.

NarooN wrote:Still, I don't think they really thought of RE3 or RE in general when they did BFAW.

I don't think they did it intentionally. The fact that you explore a mansion lends itself heavily to RE. Not just the sheer fact that it's a mansion, but the design is aesthetically similar. Given the fact that a lot of old-style mansions are built the same, I still see the small correlation.

D'oh, I forgot about the mansion element lol. They were probably paying ode to RE and other works as well, what with the "BEWARE HAUNTED MANSION" warning outside the mansion lol.

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