Silent Hill Community • View topic - What's so wrong with wanting to just enjoy the game?

Yeah, I know it isn't perfect. Yeah I know there are some graphical discrepancies and a few minor gameplay issues. But seriously, what is it exactly that makes it socially unacceptable to wish to enjoy the games despite their flaws?

I literally can't ask the question without someone going, "Oh, well you must not really love the series." or "Your taste must really suck then." Really, what's so terrible about me enjoying rereleases of two games that I was pretty certain I'd never get a chance to play again, ever. I haven't encountered any issues as far as gameplay wise on my games at least, so I see no reason why I can't enjoy the rest of the games.

And maybe I'm not as much as a hardass as the next guy, but I don't feel like either experience has been ruined by anything.

And I'm ranting now... [/ramble ramble]

Who is telling you you can't, and why are you listening? I'm glad your copy works, but the whole internet is full of youtube-type commenters who live to annoy other people.

The problem with a broken and bad-looking HD Collection is that it's supposed to play well and look better, and that's why people are upset with it.

Do you have the xbox or ps3 version?

Who is telling you you can't, and why are you listening?

I'm not really listening, but the other forum that I talk on from time to time anytime I try to actually talk about the game without completely slamming it I get flooded with comments of the nature I expressed.

Do you have the xbox or ps3 version?

PS3, actually. Apparently my PS3 is magical or some crap, I rarely ever have the 'sometimes' glitches that a lot of other people seem to notice.

_Bleaux wrote:Yeah, I know it isn't perfect. Yeah I know there are some graphical discrepancies and a few minor gameplay issues. But seriously, what is it exactly that makes it socially unacceptable to wish to enjoy the games despite their flaws?

I literally can't ask the question without someone going, "Oh, well you must not really love the series." or "Your taste must really suck then." Really, what's so terrible about me enjoying rereleases of two games that I was pretty certain I'd never get a chance to play again, ever. I haven't encountered any issues as far as gameplay wise on my games at least, so I see no reason why I can't enjoy the rest of the games.

And maybe I'm not as much as a hardass as the next guy, but I don't feel like either experience has been ruined by anything.

And I'm ranting now... [/ramble ramble]

The SH fanbase is damn near impossible to please; I even saw one person on YouTube who liked the new voices get a reply that began with "listen up, maggot". It's ridiculous.

_Bleaux wrote:PS3, actually. Apparently my PS3 is magical or some crap, I rarely ever have the 'sometimes' glitches that a lot of other people seem to notice.

This isn't meant to be a slam: But I'm betting you're probably just really apathetic towards the issues present in both games, especially if you haven't played the PS2/PC/Xbox releases in some time. The issues are there and are well documented.

Question back to you, is it so bad that people are angry that they payed $40 for a re-release of some games from 10 years ago that look, and perform worse than they did ten years ago?

This isn't directed at you, but quite frankly I find it fucking ridiculous that their are fans that are condoning the actions of, and sticking up for Konami. Those of you also trying to mix this is with the usual "Silent Hill fan rage" really need to give it a rest, people deserve to be angry about this.

Levito wrote:Question back to you, is it so bad that people are angry that they payed $40 for a re-release of some games from 10 years ago to look, and perform worse than they did ten years ago?

No, I think people have every right to be angry at the game. The problem is I don't think people should have the right to be angry at me for trying to find some enjoyment in something I spent money on.

Levito wrote:This isn't directed at you, but quite frankly I find it fucking ridiculous that their are fans that are condoning the actions of, and sticking up for Konami. Those of you also trying to mix this is with the usual "Silent Hill fan" rage really need to give it a rest, people deserve to be angry about this.

Once again, I don't disagree with you. The problem I see a lot however is that usually the argument melts down to hurling petty insults at people just because they have a different opinion then you. Yeah, I'll admit the graphical limitations are a bit downputting in places, but hey, I've wasted my money a lot more hardcore on worse games. (Brink comes to mind) My main issue is that people misguide their anger and lash out at those who just want to try to enjoy things while hoping Konami will attempt to make a few fixes.

Just I really would not like to be publicly attacked in a forum because I 'just want to talk about some of the good things' for a change. That's not saying you are, but literally every time I try to talk elsewhere about things I like in the collection I get swamped by tons of folks who just want to hurl petty insults at me. It's a bit frustrating to say the least.

The ps3 has really bad lag. and from what i heard and seen there is no visual glitches but sound and music. The lag is what makes it not fun to play for me. For me i would not recommend the HD Collection for new comers. I have the HD Collection for ps3.

The voices don't bug me.

The game: 10/10
The Port: 4/10 for the game having really smooth gameplay (when it wants to) =/

and nobody can tell you to not play it. To really solve your problem you just need to ignore them.

Well, yeah, if people are insulting you personally, then they are idiots. But I think it comes down to the way a lot of people behave on the internet (rather than a specific problem with SH fans, or with this game), so you can't expect to talk any sense into them.

As I mentioned in my review, I enjoyed playing through SH2 in HD Collection; SH3, on the other hand, lagged really bad for me and that sort of killed the experience, and if I had to recommend a version to newcomers, I'd tell them to look for used copies of tjhe originals first.

_Bleaux wrote:No, I think people have every right to be angry at the game. The problem is I don't think people should have the right to be angry at me for trying to find some enjoyment in something I spent money on. .

That's more a problem with people on the internet in general than it is a problem with Silent hill community, people are stupid. If you enjoy it, don't worry about anyone else.

Yuki wrote:The SH fanbase is damn near impossible to please

You don't really imagine that say the MGS fanbase would have been more forgiving had that HDC been butchered anywhere as badly as this one, do you? Or the God of War fanbase, or that of Team Ico?

Yeah, I'm not personally blaming the Silent Hill fanbase for the way people are treating me. Just I guess it's more noticeable that the SH fanbase seems to have a fond habit of liking to drive wedges between itself for seemingly ridiculous reasons.

I know it's mainly just standard internet idiocy, but I just get really grumpy about it and it felt kind of nice to get it off my chest.

I've always just been kind of an optimistic person though, so a lot of the negativity just seems like a waste to me. Since well, to me being negative doesn't really accomplish much besides make people unhappy. Not that it isn't useful, there are people who are extremely negative about the the collection, but then actually attempt to do something about it besides taking their anger out on people who have no control over the problems.

Edit: That's why I seem more apathetic about the problems then most, it's not because I don't care, but I try to keep hope that they'll try to do -something- about this.

_Bleaux wrote:Just I guess it's more noticeable that the SH fanbase seems to have a fond habit of liking to drive wedges between itself for seemingly ridiculous reasons.

It seems to me that the fanbase is fairly unified on this issue, with the few wedgedrivers being the ones who keep trying to excuse these shoddy ports.

kyleb wrote:
_Bleaux wrote:Just I guess it's more noticeable that the SH fanbase seems to have a fond habit of liking to drive wedges between itself for seemingly ridiculous reasons.

It seems to me that the fanbase is fairly unified on this issue, with the few wedgedrivers being the ones who keep trying to excuse these shoddy ports.

I was talking about the fanbase as whole entity, not just with the HDC.

Well I stand by my response given the fact that you made this thread about reactions to the HDC.

kyleb wrote:Well I stand by my response given the fact that you made this thread about reactions to the HDC.

I'm not sure why I always end up reading your post as being slighty hostile toward who you're usually replying to.

But now I kind of feel like I'm under the impression that you find people who are trying to enjoy the game for whatever reason the problem.

I could be wrong though, if so, sorry.

kyleb wrote:
Yuki wrote:The SH fanbase is damn near impossible to please

You don't really imagine that say the MGS fanbase would have been more forgiving had that HDC been butchered anywhere as badly as this one, do you? Or the God of War fanbase, or that of Team Ico?

I don't know those fanbases, but let's face it: the fact is the Silent Hill fanbase is notorious for bad behaviour. Combat's too clunky in the original titles? Let's fix it in Homecoming. Homecoming makes it feel too much like an action game? Let's remove the combat. Not enough combat in Shattered Memories? Let's put in some combat but make it somewhat clunky to encourage running away. Wait, now it's too clunky and the old ones had the best battle system? Hell, Tomm Hulett had death threats because of various things before Downpour even came out.

It's an internet-problem moreso than a Silent Hill problem, but this particular instance is based in this fandom, not any others. The problem is that Bleaux likes the port even with the technological problems, and he gets insulted; we see this same exact thing when people like the new voices, or when people like what they see in Book of Memories.

No need to be antagonistic.

I'm with Bleaux on this one. This fanbase is pretty fucked. I've seen the MGS fanbase be pissed about things, but they usually just stay on a forum and post in a topic until it has like 1,200 replies or something. A typical MGS debate can quite easily be turned into a novel.

You can't go anywhere on the internet (besides here and maybe some other SH forums) without running into the mook fans, the ones who never even played the games before, just watched TP's documentary and suddenly think they're experts on SH. They're at youtube, they're on facebook and twitter, they're everywhere. If anyone disagrees with them, they're idiots and aren't "true fans".

Those guys basically just suck horse dick. I've seen it too often and it's just a joke, they make the whole fanbase look bad with their lack of logic and acceptance. They're too xenophobic. So yeah, this IS a problem with the SH fanbase specifically.

Yuki wrote:It's an internet-problem moreso than a Silent Hill problem, but this particular instance is based in this fandom, not any others.

Again I still say it's more a problem with people on the internet, go to a hardcore Star Trek fansite and ask them what they think of the JJ Abarams movie, I dare you. lol

Levito wrote:
Yuki wrote:It's an internet-problem moreso than a Silent Hill problem, but this particular instance is based in this fandom, not any others.

Again I still say it's more a problem with people on the internet, go to a hardcore Star Trek fansite and ask them what they think of the JJ Abarams movie, I dare you. lol

Again, however, this was specifically about Silent Hill-related issues.

What's so wrong with wanting to just enjoy the game?

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