The Otherworld

[Who is tha....]

In silent hill 1 Alessa otherworld was red,fire and Harry was trapped in it.

In silent hill 2 james and angella otherworlds co-exist with each over and pyramid head was born from angella suffering, wich make her main antagongist. Like Walter,just remember how he give cursed doll to harry.
For James it made things worse, but his otherworld remain cold, calm and creepy and not angella red hell.

In silent hill 3 heather/alessa otherworld represent again with red, fire hot blood.

In SH4 Walter otherworld is calm, cold and looked like a realworld.

We finally get to SH'H. If you not notice all male otherworlds like james, walter or travis otherworlds are calm versions of the real world, but with still creepy insane stuff.

How the heck then in homecoming joshua/adam otherworld looked like crazy insane alessa otherworld. Isn't they suppoused to now this stuff before put it in the game. Female otherworld for three male characters and one of them is a soldier. Now thats creepy...!

[devil hunter]

1)Actually Alessa's Otherworld was rusty, kind of industrial, don't remember there being much fire.

2) PH is born from James's head, he has nothing to do with Angela, she's not the main antagonist. His otherworld is more like depressing, gloomy. Eddie's Otherworld is the cold one, like some kind of a freezer. You forgot that Angela's otherworld is not entirely about fire, it's also "sexual".

I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say that otherworlds for female characters are more chaotic looking and that male otherworlds look more normal?
I don't know, all otherworlds are like twisted versions of the normal world, it's different for each person.

[Who is tha....]

Try to look at pyramid head great knife as if it was it's normal size. Pyramid head just that small and his "great" knife is actually angella normal size knife. If james tryed to cut himself with the knife it would be diffucult. Because in otherworld knife too big to cut arm and in a real world, james look at a knife as a normal size knife. For pyramid head, james as big as a knife he is holding. It would be that difficult for pyramid head make james commit suicide if only, Wait.
James could be as small as pyramid head. bingo!

[Brispir]

I don't really think Silent Hill 4 had an "otherworld" as they are in other SH games. Sure, it's different for everybody, but Henry was trapped in his apartment and spends the whole game in another dimension it seems.... but to me, it didn't seem like it was the otherworld... at least not in the way the otherworld is in the other SH games.

And in SH2, James is in the otherworld only once... in the hospital. Well, maybe twice if you count the hotel but I'm not 100% certain that the other hotel is the otherworld or not.

[devil hunter]

The Otherworld is different for each person. James's Otherworld was a lot different than Alessa's for example.
Walter's Otherworld are like twisted versions of the places he visited.

[captain crowbar]

something...but what?

[KxK96]

Yeah, I agree that the physical appearence of The Otherworld depends of each persons mind and PAST along with its experiences and fears, ( that's basically what SH is about) but I have to disagree on the PH part. Pyramid Head was created unconsciously by James need of punishment for what he did; still, it's nice to see a diferent opinion or toughts ( sorry about my english)

[Shadedarkan]

The Joshua Otherworld in Homecoming, and I assume you mean the Shepherd House and area outside the Church, does have the same industrial feel that SH1 had. The flames could simply signify Joshua's anger at Alex for accidentally killing him. In some respects, I believe Joshua is also angry at the cult and Adam for planning on killing Alex as Joshua did love and look up to him.
Also, Joshua apparently liked to read comic books. It is possible that some of the science fiction type designs he saw in the comics melded with the cult's mythos and imagery to form his Otherworld.
It is also worthwhile to note that Alex was not a soldier. He only believed he was. A severe delusion that he denied he was having even at the end of the game when his father tells him the truth.

I would also like to note that all the Otherworld's in Homecoming share similarities in style. Two sacrifices were female and two were male. The Otherworlds also have impressions of their families 'element' in them. The Bartlett family was aligned with earth and Joey's Otherworld is very subdued and much darker than the others. The Fitch family was aligned with fire and Scarlet's Otherworld has a high amount of fire and heat waves in it. The Holloway family was aligned with air and Nora's Otherworld had a lighter feel and many windows. The Shepherd family was aligned with water. Although Joshua died by drowning, the Shepherd sacrifice was botched. This may be why Joshua's Otherworld lacks many water elements, unless one counts the basement of the Shepherd house.

[TheCrazy]

In silent hill 1 Alessa otherworld was red,fire and Harry was trapped in it.

In silent hill 2 james and angella otherworlds co-exist with each over and pyramid head was born from angella suffering, wich make her main antagongist. Like Walter,just remember how he give cursed doll to harry.
For James it made things worse, but his otherworld remain cold, calm and creepy and not angella red hell.

In silent hill 3 heather/alessa otherworld represent again with red, fire hot blood.

In SH4 Walter otherworld is calm, cold and looked like a realworld.

We finally get to SH'H. If you not notice all male otherworlds like james, walter or travis otherworlds are calm versions of the real world, but with still creepy insane stuff.

How the heck then in homecoming joshua/adam otherworld looked like crazy insane alessa otherworld. Isn't they suppoused to now this stuff before put it in the game. Female otherworld for three male characters and one of them is a soldier. Now thats creepy...!

Personally I think the answer is pretty obvious, Silent Hill Homecoming is actually part of Alessa's otherworld, just because this game was highly influenced by the Movie. The otherworld is just an exemple of that, then we can look at the creatures etc. Silent Hill Homecoming doesn't seem to be original enough to give Alex the personal otherworld he deserves.

[Shadedarkan]

In silent hill 1 Alessa otherworld was red,fire and Harry was trapped in it.

In silent hill 2 james and angella otherworlds co-exist with each over and pyramid head was born from angella suffering, wich make her main antagongist. Like Walter,just remember how he give cursed doll to harry.
For James it made things worse, but his otherworld remain cold, calm and creepy and not angella red hell.

In silent hill 3 heather/alessa otherworld represent again with red, fire hot blood.

In SH4 Walter otherworld is calm, cold and looked like a realworld.

We finally get to SH'H. If you not notice all male otherworlds like james, walter or travis otherworlds are calm versions of the real world, but with still creepy insane stuff.

How the heck then in homecoming joshua/adam otherworld looked like crazy insane alessa otherworld. Isn't they suppoused to now this stuff before put it in the game. Female otherworld for three male characters and one of them is a soldier. Now thats creepy...!

Personally I think the answer is pretty obvious, Silent Hill Homecoming is actually part of Alessa's otherworld, just because this game was highly influenced by the Movie. The otherworld is just an exemple of that, then we can look at the creatures etc. Silent Hill Homecoming doesn't seem to be original enough to give Alex the personal otherworld he deserves.

There were items taken from the movie to make this game. The movie took the same items that Homecoming uses from the original series. Go back and look at each Otherworld in Homecoming and notice the small nuances that make each one different.
The Otherworlds in Homecoming are not Alex's. He is not the entity making them. The Otherworlds in Homecoming each belong to one of the sacrificed children and they all have differences. The only Otherworld that could be considered Alex's is the hospital at the beginning, but even I can't find a reason to believe that it is his and not Joshua's creation.

[Floodclaw]

The Otherworld in Homecoming isn't Joshua's. Or Alex's, for that matter.

It's the Otherworld of the cult leaders in the town. Fitch, Bartlett, Holloway and Shepard. The game falls into the Otherworld whenever you find a token significant to each of those people. Hell Descent starts after you find Scarlet's doll, after you find Bartlett's son's watch, Elle's locket, those sorts of things. The bosses arrive when you show these trinkets to the respective leaders. When you show the watch to the Mayor, Sepulcher shows up and smooshes him. When you show the doll to the Doc, Scarlet shows up and om nom nom. When you show the locket to Judge, Asphyxia shows up, but the Judge manages to get away and lock Alex in with it.

Think about it. The cult in Sheperd's Glen believed their pact with the gods was broken and that the Old Gods were coming to get vengeance on them, hence the townspeople disappearing and the town falling into ruin. It's all about the leaders, not about Josh and Alex.

[Shadedarkan]

The Otherworld in Homecoming isn't Joshua's. Or Alex's, for that matter.

It's the Otherworld of the cult leaders in the town. Fitch, Bartlett, Holloway and Shepard. The game falls into the Otherworld whenever you find a token significant to each of those people. Hell Descent starts after you find Scarlet's doll, after you find Bartlett's son's watch, Elle's locket, those sorts of things. The bosses arrive when you show these trinkets to the respective leaders. When you show the watch to the Mayor, Sepulcher shows up and smooshes him. When you show the doll to the Doc, Scarlet shows up and om nom nom. When you show the locket to Judge, Asphyxia shows up, but the Judge manages to get away and lock Alex in with it.

Think about it. The cult in Sheperd's Glen believed their pact with the gods was broken and that the Old Gods were coming to get vengeance on them, hence the townspeople disappearing and the town falling into ruin. It's all about the leaders, not about Josh and Alex.

I can't completely agree that the Otherworlds belong to the parents. Holloway didn't care about killing her daughter at all. She was all over the cult stuff. The other parents showed obvious psychological issues from having killed their children. Then, I look at the fact that the Otherworlds don't show up until you are in the place where the child's body was laid. Joey was buried under a tree in the hotel's atrium and his Otherworld doesn't show up until you are outside its door with his memento. It would seem that Fitch placed Scarlet in the wall of the room of his clinic which doesn't let you pass until you have her memento. Nora was placed in the gas chamber of the prison. Now, this one can be debated as you enter the Otherworld after your mother dies. Joshua seems to be the only exception to this, but then, we don't know where his body was placed.
Holloway went back to the Order in Silent Hill. The room in the Underground, 301 I believe, contains documents that explain that the Order have been kidnapping people from Shepherd's Glen. Of the ones that didn't get killed by monsters anyhow. Side note, I'm pretty sure that the Order in Homecoming were making the monsters out of people too.

[Floodclaw]

^I feel Holloway was just scared shitless that there would be terrible repercussions for breaking the pact rather than feeling guilty over killing their children.

[Shadedarkan]

Holloway gives me the 'fanatical follower' vibe. I don't think she sees anything wrong with killing Nora since the religion stated it must be so. Fitch, Bartlett and Shepherd all showed signs of regret and guilt, even though Shepherd didn't actually kill Joshua. It's my opinion that Holloway lured Alex to the gas chamber knowing that Nora would come out to play in an attempt to kill him. Her little smirk before she closes the door hints that she knew what would happen.
I do agree that she was also scared shitless about the pact being screwed up by Shepherd.

[EliphasLevi]

Thing tho about Silent hill it's opened to interpretations, who knows if it's even real or seeing what you are really seeing, or if you're suffering from the hallucinogenic plant "White Claudia" or you're a remnant of silent hill, just someones memory. You're in your midst of dying slowly, from a car crash. like in silent hill 1. but number 1 I find the red god was more industrial, I found in number 2, it seemed like it was two different worlds stuck together, number 3 had to do lots with blood and hospital/industrial looking environments, number 4 was more of a cold depressing reality.

[rollerfan222]

In silent hill 1 Alessa otherworld was red,fire and Harry was trapped in it.

In silent hill 2 james and angella otherworlds co-exist with each over and pyramid head was born from angella suffering, wich make her main antagongist. Like Walter,just remember how he give cursed doll to harry.
For James it made things worse, but his otherworld remain cold, calm and creepy and not angella red hell.

In silent hill 3 heather/alessa otherworld represent again with red, fire hot blood.

In SH4 Walter otherworld is calm, cold and looked like a realworld.

We finally get to SH'H. If you not notice all male otherworlds like james, walter or travis otherworlds are calm versions of the real world, but with still creepy insane stuff.

How the heck then in homecoming joshua/adam otherworld looked like crazy insane alessa otherworld. Isn't they suppoused to now this stuff before put it in the game. Female otherworld for three male characters and one of them is a soldier. Now thats creepy...!

Personally I think the answer is pretty obvious, Silent Hill Homecoming is actually part of Alessa's otherworld, just because this game was highly influenced by the Movie. The otherworld is just an exemple of that, then we can look at the creatures etc. Silent Hill Homecoming doesn't seem to be original enough to give Alex the personal otherworld he deserves.

we actually see very little of alex's otherworld and it does not have anything to do with alessa, if you pay attention closely to the different signs in the hell descent you can clearly see it is dr fitch's otherworld, his personal hell, along with all the parents of the chirldren, the grand hotel is infested with rubble, dirt and insects, wich is sam barletts otherworld but we only see the fog version of it until the boss battle with sepulcher, as joey was buried alive, hell descent is all dr fitch, hence the many hospital signs and nurse staff and other medical signs and the dolls, wich are related to scarlet.

the prison otherworld belongs to judge holloway in relation to nora, hence the several pipes and holes and the very open and windy hallways. at the end of the game we see little of alex's otherworld as we only fight the final boss, wich symbolizes the weird obssesion josh had with spiders, and his death. but the whole game's otherworlds are very similar except for the things i mentioned.