On the Exclusion of the Original Silent Hill

[captain crowbar]

I honestly don't get why anyone would pay for a re-release of a game they own just to get achievements. It's different if they don't have 2 or 3. But I've got all these people on Youtube, etc. telling me that I'm a bad person if I don't spend money on the HD collection. It's silly. It's as silly as the people who try to tell people not to buy it because it's being changed too much or something.

It's a game. Get it or don't. But let's not make the mistake of going around badgering people about it like so many others are doing.

Just putting that out there. Watching out for the pack.

[NarooN]

But I've got all these people on Youtube, etc. telling me that I'm a bad person if I don't spend money on the HD collection.

I find this to be hilarious because those same people were probably the ones who said anyone who buys the collection is basically committing blasphemy since since it didn't have the SH2 voices.

[captain crowbar]

you're probably right. The same thing happened with the HD remake of Halo CE. Halo fanboys were just vehement when I said I thought it was silly to buy it when I already owned the original.

[Purramid_Head]

A port and remake are not always the same thing.

I think I'm gonna write a review for 1. This game is great. As a child I couldn't understand, as an adult it makes sense to me. I think this game might have more depth than 2 and 3 even. The problem with it I suppose, is people want things explained to them and 1 does the least explaining. It's the most vaguest of the games. When you understand everything and replay it becomes a different game. Unlike 2, which lost things, I.e. The more you know the less entertaining it is.. SH1 might as well be the opposite. The more you know the better it is, even if you know less it's still fairly and simply awesome.

[NarooN]

Agreed. SH1 is awesome. I need to finish up that run I began late last year but forgot about...

[captain crowbar]

Xu, include a long section about how awesome Kaufmann is.

[Purramid_Head]

^I liked it especially when Harry says "Hold it!" And Kaufman shoots anyway.

[captain crowbar]

I like how no matter what, he's always got his briefcase, lol.

[Purramid_Head]

I like how no matter what, he's always got his briefcase, lol.

When I got to the end I noticed that. It was really funny when he was like "quit screwing around!" And "return things to how they were before.", is he really that dumb about the super natural?

[captain crowbar]

IDK, maybe he knew more about it than his dialogue let on. Maybe he knew from his dealings with the cult that things could be reversed if the right methods were applied. But then again, he seriously underestimated the aglophatus and what it was actually capable of. Lot's of room for character development, but Origins dropped the ball when it had the chance.

[gustavopi]

A port and remake are not always the same thing.

I think I'm gonna write a review for 1. This game is great. As a child I couldn't understand, as an adult it makes sense to me. I think this game might have more depth than 2 and 3 even. The problem with it I suppose, is people want things explained to them and 1 does the least explaining. It's the most vaguest of the games. When you understand everything and replay it becomes a different game. Unlike 2, which lost things, I.e. The more you know the less entertaining it is.. SH1 might as well be the opposite. The more you know the better it is, even if you know less it's still fairly and simply awesome.

If you have a PC or a Mac you can play SH1 with an emulator. It should work on PS2, but the last model does not do the task... thanks Sony

[Purramid_Head]

Actually it worked fine on my slim ps2.

Honestly, this game has more depth than SH2. I played both back to back and my attention span and patience for 2 was short. If you read the supplementery material 1 is one of the best SH games. I think the reason its not appealing so much is the limitations of PS1 and it's not a game for children. While the others are "adult" too, it should be noted that seeing the game as an adult, maturally, is not the same as when you're a kid. That being said I first played it almost ten years ago when I was 15 and now that I'm 24 I understand the game's depth a lot more and appreciate it. It's a nice change from the Resident Evil series, that's for sure.

[gustavopi]

Oh yeah, Konami push PS1 to the limit with SH, and yes create a new path from RE. Soon we'll be able to run it in a Java emulator hahaha, big industry are panic!!! You play it with 15? And your mama knows about???

[keeps]

i played it when i was like 11 :)

[Purramid_Head]

Oh yeah, Konami push PS1 to the limit with SH, and yes create a new path from RE. Soon we'll be able to run it in a Java emulator hahaha, big industry are panic!!! You play it with 15? And your mama knows about???

Started on horror 2 year before that. My mom didn't care.

[gustavopi]

Hahaha, now I'm the one who say to a ten years old kid what he can play or not! I let he play RE and maybe SH1 is not a big problem, but I'm worry about SH2 or SM, it's too deep into adult problems. But he like more Shadow Warriors or Pro Evolution Soccer.

[nur_ein_tier]

A port and remake are not always the same thing.

I think I'm gonna write a review for 1. This game is great. As a child I couldn't understand, as an adult it makes sense to me. I think this game might have more depth than 2 and 3 even. The problem with it I suppose, is people want things explained to them and 1 does the least explaining. It's the most vaguest of the games. When you understand everything and replay it becomes a different game. Unlike 2, which lost things, I.e. The more you know the less entertaining it is.. SH1 might as well be the opposite. The more you know the better it is, even if you know less it's still fairly and simply awesome.

This is why SH1 is, was, and always will be my favorite Silent Hill, and I suppose the fact that it was the first game I played and my introduction to the games. I fap about SH1 the way most people fap about SH2.

[*fap fap fap*]

But yeah, having it in the HD collection just wouldn't work for reasons already stated.

As for kids playing it, well, I'd rather see kids playing something with interesting stories and some sort of meaning than half the crap out there that kids play despite "mature" game ratings. I was 18 when SH1 came out, so I never played any of them as a kid though. Certainly, my dad would have let me if I had been younger and asked him to buy it for me, though. (I have nothing against meaningless violence in games, I just mean that I see Silent Hill as something that could enrich anyone's life, so I wouldn't see it as problematic if played by kids. As for adult problems and sexuality, well, kids see all that and more in your average Hollywood movie.)

[Purramid_Head]

I think it's like literature. There's a difference between escapist and interpretive literature. Silent Hill leans on the interpretive side, GTA leans towards the escapist. Both have their pluses and minuses.

[captain crowbar]

Translation: SH is like made from scratch chocolate cake at a fancy restaurant. Most other games are like M&M's.

Both are chocolatey and delicious, but only one has class.

[Terramax]

I don't see why people would suggest the original Silent Hill shouldn't be included in the collection.

If you're new to the series (which I'm guessing this HD collection is targeting) I'm sure you're going to want to know what the third game is about. Or intruiged to play the game that made waves in the first place. I'm guessing including it wouldn't take much space on the hard disc.

And why would people have a problem playing a PSX game on their PS3 if many are downloading PSX games already. Most people have no problem playing the Sega Ultimate collection on their new gen consoles. Or watching Charlie Chaplin films on blueray? Or listening to The Beatles on MP3? Why should playing a cleaned up version of Silent Hill be viewed any different?

What harm would it do to include it? Playing the original with a higher resolution would be more than enough for me. In fact, considering SH2 & 3 still look great on my PC to this day, I'd much rather pay £25 solely for a cleaned version of the original than this 'collection' (if you can even call it that).