Lisa and Kaufman?

[DavidBurkey]

Lisa flurts with Travis in the game until the last scene when Travis catches her with Kaufman. She throws a mean attitude at Travis which is very unlikely of her actually since she seemed like the sweet character in the series. My guestion is this.. Travis catches them on the bed with drugs on the counter in the same room. What seems more likely? help me figure out what happened.

Answer 1.
Lisa had gave herself up to Kaufman for drugs due to her addiction?

Answer 2.
Kaufman had drugged Lisa to get into her pants?

Answer 3.
They didn't do anything, Lisa and Kaufman just had a little Drug fiesta

Answer 4.
None or Other



Really the first two answers are just the two possibilities I thought of when I first saw the drugs after Lisa and Kaufman had left the room and unfortunately locked Travis in. lol Whats everyone else's oppinion on this?

[Bronze Fox]

I'd guess answer #1. Lisa would've become addicted to the drugs so she'd have to obey Kaufman in order to obtain her fix.
Whether it be to look after Alessa or... other things.

[Fungo]

Lisa and Kaufmann were doing it.
And then doing it.

[Mercury]

None of them, really. I think Kaufmann pushed Lisa into having sex. But he wouldn't have sex with Lisa for sexual pleasure, but for power. He seems like the type of person who would get off on power (he runs one of the only hospitals in town and is a major part of the town). But for Lisa to give in would mean that she wanted to, but she wasn't exactly rushing anything. It seems like it could be her first time using the drug and her first time having sex.

As far as her anger in the motel, it's not because she was mad at Travis himself, but the situation. She was mad at herself for letting things go as far as they did and humiliated that Travis, a stranger, caught her in her most vulnerable state. Before when she would flirt, she was just playing around. She's only sixteen, it's not like she means anything by it.

This is just my personal view, but it makes sense that she becomes wise and almost "hardened" in SH1 after enduring her early experiences with Kaufmann.

[Yaywalter]

None of them, really. I think Kaufmann pushed Lisa into having sex. But he wouldn't have sex with Lisa for sexual pleasure, but for power. He seems like the type of person who would get off on power (he runs one of the only hospitals in town and is a major part of the town). But for Lisa to give in would mean that she wanted to, but she wasn't exactly rushing anything. It seems like it could be her first time using the drug and her first time having sex.

As far as her anger in the motel, it's not because she was mad at Travis himself, but the situation. She was mad at herself for letting things go as far as they did and humiliated that Travis, a stranger, caught her in her most vulnerable state. Before when she would flirt, she was just playing around. She's only sixteen, it's not like she means anything by it.

This is just my personal view, but it makes sense that she becomes wise and almost "hardened" in SH1 after enduring her early experiences with Kaufmann.

Likewise, Kaufmann is hardened by his experiences with Lisa.

[squaretex]

Likewise, Kaufmann is hardened by his experiences with Lisa.

...that's just...BAD.

Although I went with Answer 1, I have to mention that I agree with SDjilliaRE's view that Lisa's anger is due to her humiliation of being caught in such a compromised situation. Sadly, lashing out (even in a mind form such as this) is an all-too-common response to being gravely embarrassed.

[Fungo]

Id be pretty pissed if Travis walked into my apartment unannounced.
Through a hole in the bathroom ceiling, no less.

[Lobsel Vith]

In Lisa and Kaufmann's POV they probably thought that Travis had been watching them for quite a while, hence Lisa's bitchy attitude.

As to why they had sex? Simple. Lisa is a drug wh*re

[Delirium]

My theory is that Lisa is Kaufmann.

[squaretex]

My theory is that Lisa is Kaufmann.

...

Okay, it's probably a joke - actually MOST LIKELY - but just for fun I'd like to hear the details of this theory, please!

[Mercury]

Likewise, Kaufmann is hardened by his experiences with Lisa.

To be honest, I doubt he put much effort into it.

[Purramid_Head]

In Lisa and Kaufmann's POV they probably thought that Travis had been watching them for quite a while, hence Lisa's bitchy attitude.

As to why they had sex? Simple. Lisa is a drug wh*re

LOL

I voted answer four. On three it says they had a drug fiesta but did nothing. They weren't doing nothing, they were having sex.


My idea is the Lisa is very young and making bad decisions that will catch up to her in a few years.... As seen in SH1.

[DavidBurkey]

In Lisa and Kaufmann's POV they probably thought that Travis had been watching them for quite a while, hence Lisa's bitchy attitude.

As to why they had sex? Simple. Lisa is a drug wh*re

LOL

I voted answer four. On three it says they had a drug fiesta but did nothing. They weren't doing nothing, they were having sex.


My idea is the Lisa is very young and making bad decisions that will catch up to her in a few years.... As seen in SH1.

That sounds likely,

They didn't even make her look 16 in the game. lmao she looks like shes 26 or something in Silent Hill Origins. lol But ill also agree with Lobsel Vith. About Lisa just being a drug wh*re. It just sounds very likely of a teenager to be stupid and do drugs just like in the real world.

[Meltdown]

Option #1 plz.

[Delirium]

My theory is that Lisa is Kaufmann.

...

Okay, it's probably a joke - actually MOST LIKELY - but just for fun I'd like to hear the details of this theory, please!

Well, I didn't put a whole lot of thought behind the theory, but is there any solid evidence that Lisa isn't Kaufmann?

In the end of Silent Hill, when Lisa supposedly drags Kaufmann into hell, or whatever transpires there, wouldn't it logically be because they are the same entity, and cannot exist in separate planes? It wouldn't make sense for Kaufmann to be pulled into hell unless that was actually where he was supposed to be in the first place.

[ERROR]

They're seen arguing in the hallway of Alchemilla Hospital, in reality, before the events of Silent Hill. It is therefore impossible that they are the same person.

Not to mention how abso-fuckin-lutely ridiculous that is.

[Lobsel Vith]

I don't think they were being serious. (At least, I hope they weren't)

[Delirium]

They're seen arguing in the hallway of Alchemilla Hospital, in reality, before the events of Silent Hill. It is therefore impossible that they are the same person.

How can you ever be certain that you're in "reality" in Silent Hill. Just because it looks okay, doesn't mean things are completely normal. Lisa could simply be the manifestation of Dr. Kaufmann's multiple personality disorder. And the fact that they were in the same place at the same time doesn't necessarily make it impossible for them to be the same person. Haven't you seen High Tension?

[Lobsel Vith]

Okay, now this is getting stupid. The events that happen just before SH1 are set in reality, before Alessa goes and screws with everything.

By your logic I can say that all the characters of SH1 are all Alessa's personas.

Oh wait, I actually did write a theory like that, and people almost believed it.

[Delirium]

Okay, now this is getting stupid. The events that happen just before SH1 are set in reality, before Alessa goes and screws with everything.

By your logic I can say that all the characters of SH1 are all Alessa's personas.

Oh wait, I actually did write a theory like that, and people almost believed it.

Your theory is equally plausible.

Though, I'll argue the point that Alessa is the cause of Silent Hill's screwiness. Doesn't Silent Hill have a history of backwards religion and cult phenomena that stretches back a long way? I doubt that Alessa is the sole factor causing Silent Hill to be the way it is.

And I wouldn't say that it's "getting stupid." It's just getting different. And at which point is debating the truth of a fictional story "stupid"?