Honestly, I notice some of the smallest things. (spoilers)

[21121]

Or rain could symbolize anger as well. You have to admit that other than the roads being blocked, and the monsters, the misty world is strangely peaceful.

Yeah and if you add the snow, it works.

But to me rain is pretty calming. But then again, in the series it's sometimes like, othertimes crazy.

So it could depend.

[Mercury]

Actually, there's a flood myth in most ancient religions and they all seem to tie together at the same time. Meaning that the world could have held an ancient civilization who was washed out of the Earth, leaving few people to survive. [/end history lesson]

I'm probably just digging up more useless information, but I found this:

The fog is a symbol of your own insecurities and doubts about what course to follow in the future. Fog also may indicate that you are trying to hide your intentions from others. Being surrounded by thick fog is a warning: you need to postpone your plans until you have more information. Seeing fog means that right now you'd better rely on your intuition and good judgement.

Source: http://www.experiencefestival.com/dream_dictionary_haze

[21121]

But I don't believe anyone in the series relies on good judgement in the fog, the fog is an illusion and so is what they do in it.


No good judgement if you ask me.

[Purramid_Head]

Actually, there's a flood myth in most ancient religions and they all seem to tie together at the same time. Meaning that the world could have held an ancient civilization who was washed out of the Earth, leaving few people to survive. [/end history lesson]

You mean "[/end of history lesson based on bad archeology & science]".

Last time I checked the Aztec flood myth is unrelated to the Mesopotamian Gilgamesh epic's myth, which is where the OT derives it from. When it says "God flooded the world" The world to the ancient Mesopotamians was.. Well Mesopotamia. They didn't know Europe, Asia, or the Americas, etc. So God only flooded Mesopotamia, not Africa, Americas, Asia, Europe etc.


Floods were common in Mesopotamia. Hell, they are common in alot of parts of the world. The Aztecs had Chalchiuhtlicue and Tlaloc as givers of their floods, I really don't think this means that there was one civ that flooded leaving few to survive at all. (Anyway the Aztec myth is newer than the OT's myth!) The idea that people experienced a common weather condition like a flood & made myths about it, is not unsual. Thats like saying... "Oh such and such civ experienced drought.. and made a myth about it. Oh look another unrelated culture has some myth about drought that was witten around the same time... This must mean that they all use to be one civilization!"

[Lobsel Vith]

Well somebody could argue that when the God of Old Testament lore scattered the nations and people after they were creating the tower of Babel, that that's when the continents split apart.

So basically one could argue that at one time all nations were a part of the Mesopotamian Gilgamesh.

And the flood happened before the Tower of Babel incident.

[Purramid_Head]

Well somebody could argue that when the God of Old Testament lore scattered the nations and people after they were creating the tower of Babel, that that's when the continents split apart.

Yes and thats why science doesn't support this. People were out of Africa before that. And defenately do not believe the "first man and woman" are from the Middle east.

So basically one could argue that at one time all nations were a part of the Mesopotamian Gilgamesh.

And the flood happened before the Tower of Babel incident.

Again no archeological proof. And the bible isn't good for what people in the West normally look to it for. Its good for finding out a bunch of stuff tho, including how the biblical patriarchs thought compared to their cotemporary and surrounding cultures, comparing religious commentary, and the devolapment of Monotheism.


I'm not trying to sound so mean. SO please don't think of it as bashing anyone here's religious beliefs. This is not what I intend to do. Just that I do not support, and neither does science alot of the "biblical archeology".

[Lobsel Vith]

Can we get back on topic? PLEASE?

Technically this is my topic, and I don't want to see anymore discussion on who's science and religion is right.

So let's just cut out, or I'll ask for this topic to be locked.

[Purramid_Head]

Well it had nothing to do with religion originally, it ended up that way because people want to base science on religion, which gets no where.


Anyway I think we are over analyzing the rain signafigance. I don't think its that important.

Theres some sparse things... Like Xuchilbara is supposed to be the spirit of the mist, so take what you well out of that. I guess that means Xu is omnipresent?

[Lobsel Vith]

I still maintain that it might show God's anger.

Or else...wait, wasn't it raining when Travis was heading to Silent Hill? I think the opening cutscene shows that. Perhaps before Alessa was burned, or the last weather Alessa saw outside was rain.

Hence why in SH1 it always rains in the nightmare world.

[Purramid_Head]

Or else...wait, wasn't it raining when Travis was heading to Silent Hill? I think the opening cutscene shows that. Perhaps before Alessa was burned, or the last weather Alessa saw outside was rain.

Hence why in SH1 it always rains in the nightmare world.

Yeah it was. It stops after he gets out of the truck or a little before.

Its kinda ironic too. Because then its nothing but smoke from the fire. So rain did absolutely nothing to the fire itself in putting it out. Maybe its something to do with Alessa and suffering?

[Lobsel Vith]

Well, rain doesn't always put out fires. I live in New Mexico where we get to worry about 'Fire season'. On the news they'll always say, "It rained today which helped fire fighters, but the wild fire that spread through the bosque is only 20% contained."

So if it did rain, and the rain didn't put out the fire that wouldn't shock me at all.

[NightFlutter]

SNOW: The gods were spreading salt on the town because they were about to eat it.

RAIN: The gods just gave their dog a bath and it was shaking itself dry.

/thread

[Purramid_Head]

NightFlutter its;

*the gods were giving Mira a bath (rather than just a dog)

[NightFlutter]

NightFlutter its;

*the gods were giving Mira a bath (rather than just a dog)

I guess we're gonna have to split into sects on whether the dog is the great Mira, or just another dog that's a good dog, just not our lord and savior.

[21121]

Hmm I almost assumed we were going to be 100% serious about this. Silly me.



I'm following a lead, looking for any notes that involve rain. If any come to mind please bring it up.

[Mercury]

This really stood out to me:

Who covereth the heaven with clouds, who prepareth rain for the earth [...]

from http://bible.cc/psalms/147-8.htm

It detracts from the current argument, but I thought I would post it anyway.

[21121]

*shudder* Religion.


I don't think it HAS to have religious meaning, because there is a lot on how rain effects us. (usually makes us sad).



Still nothing so far on notes.

[Mercury]

I was researching Christian, Kabbalah, dream symbolism, and other resources. They all point to the idea of "birth" or "creation" being a symbol of rain.

That quote just stood out to me as the connection of fog and rain. But that argument would suggest that the "misty" world is heaven, and that the Otherworld is reality. But, as I said, that detracts from the current argument.

[Giromancy]

2. School - Remember the crying in the boy's bathroom that no doubt belongs to Alessa? I have wondered why she takes solace in the boys restroom. The answer may lie in the fact that two mumblers are in the girls bathroom. We know the mumblers are representations of the children that teased Alessa in school. This little part here could be a representation of what happened to Alessa when she was a student.

There was once a period of time during the development process when the character was intended to be a boy. There is a guidebook published by Konami Japan that mentions that the change happened late in the development process, and that they didn't have the time to change everything to reflect the gender change.

The crying that happens in the boy's bathroom is one of those things. If the staff had more time, they would have put the event in the girl's bathroom.

Can you tell me wich guide is that please??.

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Don't forget Silent Hill takes quite a bit from the movie Phantoms. Which is why I believe the random parasites are in the game.