One thing I don't understand *spoilers*

[Whitney]

Okay so Alex was never a soldier...does that mean the Hospital Ending is the true ending? It makes the most sense since his visit would all be in his head and it's possible he could dream himself as a badass war veteran. What do you guys think?

[iodinesky]

In that ending, it's possible he never escaped the hospital in the first place or he was recovered and brought back for further treatment.

I don't think it's very likely for that to be the true ending, but I'm not sure.

[God's Condemned]

It is possible that this ending is canon. It is still debated, though. Looking at the other endings, the drowning ending reflects what should have happened when Alex was younger. The bogeyman ending is almost like Alex' ultimate punishment, reflecting James' punishment. The UFO ending is an obvious joke, along with the others and the dog ending in SH2. The good ending is debatable, because there is a debate on whether Elle Holloway is real. She was based off of Maria in SH2. Depending on what ending you get, she can exist, or not. As far as I know, the hospital ending seems the most canon. This could mean, as previously stated, that Alex never made it out of Alchemilla, or he was brought back in, but the ending suggests that he never left.

[Whitney]

It is possible that this ending is canon. It is still debated, though. Looking at the other endings, the drowning ending reflects what should have happened when Alex was younger. The bogeyman ending is almost like Alex' ultimate punishment, reflecting James' punishment. The UFO ending is an obvious joke, along with the others and the dog ending in SH2. The good ending is debatable, because there is a debate on whether Elle Holloway is real. She was based off of Maria in SH2. Depending on what ending you get, she can exist, or not. As far as I know, the hospital ending seems the most canon. This could mean, as previously stated, that Alex never made it out of Alchemilla, or he was brought back in, but the ending suggests that he never left.

Alchemilla? I figured he was in an unamed hospital...or if anything Brookhaven since it deals with mental cases. Though its been awhile since I've played was it mentioned by name?

[God's Condemned]

I think there was something that mentioned the hospital name. Also, on the Lost Memories site on the Homecoming Maps page, http://www.silenthillmemories.net/sh5/maps_en.htm, it names the hospital as Alchemilla. Could be wrong, because there's nothing on the map that mentions a name.

[Kabrelle]

It is possible that this ending is canon. It is still debated, though. Looking at the other endings, the drowning ending reflects what should have happened when Alex was younger. The bogeyman ending is almost like Alex' ultimate punishment, reflecting James' punishment. The UFO ending is an obvious joke, along with the others and the dog ending in SH2. The good ending is debatable, because there is a debate on whether Elle Holloway is real. She was based off of Maria in SH2. Depending on what ending you get, she can exist, or not. As far as I know, the hospital ending seems the most canon. This could mean, as previously stated, that Alex never made it out of Alchemilla, or he was brought back in, but the ending suggests that he never left.

Alchemilla? I figured he was in an unamed hospital...or if anything Brookhaven since it deals with mental cases. Though its been awhile since I've played was it mentioned by name?

I'm pretty sure it would be Alchemilla since in Homecoming it stated they re-renovated it as a mental ward. I don't really see the Hospital ending as canon though. I would say he gets his war veteran like attacks from practice, after all he felt he had to be like his father, a soldier, and so he probably became obsessed with acting like a soldier and trained himself to move the way he does and continued obsessing to the point where he actually thought he was a soldier. That's my guess though.

[God's Condemned]

That'sa good thought. Alex always did want to please his father, and he thought that being a soldier was the way to go. What I don't get is his thoughts that he got letters overseas from the Holloways. Even obsessing doesn't make you think that. He came from the hospital at the beginning of the game, so it is possible that he may have thought he was a soldier because of meds and his father's being a soldier. Don't know. It is possible that the hospital ending is not canon, but from how he starts off coming from the hospital, it fits that there's a possibility he never left, and that the events of the game were an illusion. It's still up in the air, though.

[Kabrelle]

I think the Holloway's sent him letters to the mental institution he was in. And just a small thought that popped into my head, but in a way he was fighting a war, with himself and his family. Idk. Just a thought. And the hospital is definitely Alchemilla, the very first map in the game says Alchemilla on it >_>

[God's Condemned]

Good point. Alex is sort of fighting a war. Mainly with himself, but still. I didn't see anything on the map, but I automatically assumed that it was Alchemilla. Something in my head just pointed that hospital out to me. Brookhaven wasn't on the map, though it is probably listed on the "Old Silent Hill" portion that we can't see in-game.

[Kabrelle]

Top left corner

[God's Condemned]

Nice catch. As much as I am a stickler for detail, I missed this. I have a question, while we are on the subject of location. Where do you think the Hell Descent is? The signs and door frames suggest that it is in a hospital, but which one? Seeing as there is no map for it.

[Kabrelle]

My guess is its the full hospital of where Fitch works. We never really got to see the entire place as many doors were locked, but that's my guess.

[God's Condemned]

True. The building is decent sized, so it is possible. Apparently the Grand Hotel is located in old Silent Hill. I was looking on the map you get when poking around in the attic, and it's not on there.

[Alex shepherd]

No I don't think it's the true ending 'cause if you read alex daires he wrote that he escaped form the hospital

[Whitney]

No I don't think it's the true ending 'cause if you read alex daires he wrote that he escaped form the hospital

But he wasn't a war verteran those were his father's dog tags and uniform he was delusional after the accidental murder

BTW thanks for the map screen JpD

[hairymason]

No I don't think it's the true ending 'cause if you read alex daires he wrote that he escaped form the hospital

I don't know if I would trust anything Alex wrote.
I kinda thought that the drowning ending made the most sense, except that there was an enormous amount of emperical knowledge* for a kid's delusion while drowning. Maybe Alex would have known of the ritual since his dad was one of the people directly responsible for preserving it. and then he would encounter the parents, and the sacrificed children. Every adult he speaks to does give him a sort of authoritative and/or dismissive attitude, but truthfully, I never gave it enough thought or study to say I believe it's the "right" ending. I would appreciate counter points to my opinion, cause I really don't know enough about it to say any ending is more right than the other, except for the pyramid head ending, that was just wrong in and out of the game.

(* The generator in Silent Hill's safety system. The lockup system at the prison, the concept of the woman cheating on her dying husband in the letters at the hotel, The overt sexuality of the nurses)

[Nyarlathotep]

I don't think there's really enough evidence to prove one ending anymore than another. I mean, Alex doesn't really do anything too out there during the game that would call for the dream being the only reasonable explanation. I think the whole story with the founding families and the order is a bit too elaborate and tied in with Silent Hill's past to be a creation of Alex's imagination.


As for the Hell Descent, it's a Nowhere-like area. It's loosely set within Fitch's building, but it's obviously not accurate.

[fogfactor]

Alex doesn't really do anything too out there during the game that would call for the dream being the only reasonable explanation.

True, i fight zombie nurses in hellish hospitals, and go on super adventures looking for photographs for weird ladies locked inside their apartments all the time.

[hairymason]

Alex doesn't really do anything too out there during the game that would call for the dream being the only reasonable explanation.

True, i fight zombie nurses in hellish hospitals, and go on super adventures looking for photographs for weird ladies locked inside their apartments all the time.

Yeah, but can you do that cool ninja roll like Alex? I used to when I was young. Those were the days.

[Lilacatz]

It's hard to know about Alex in real life because we only see things through "his" eyes.

But how come in other games it was so easy to figure out which ending mean this and that.
What clues would be needed to figure out the true ending.