Silent Hill Downpour Other World

[schismlurker]

What do you think about the other world in silent hill downpour?

Is it a manifestation of Murphy´s thoughts, sins, feelings? or Anne´s feelings?

Every silent hill makes the main character lure into personal manifestations.. but i think that doesn´t happen in downpour. I think it´s the first silent hill where the main character (murphy) travel into a nasty world made by the dark feelings of another character (Anne feelings of Revenge, Fear to the bogeyman, Anger) Everything attached with symbolism of course.

What do you think?

[devil hunter]

I liked it, it's mindscrewy, makes you feel crazy.

I think only the Monastery one is manifestation of Murphy's thoughts etc. except maybe the one in the mines too, but that one might be J.P.'s. Here's what I mean, Monocle Man and the Otherworld in the mine might be Murphy's feelings about J.P. or those come from J.P.'s mind, though I think the first is more likely.

Also you're wrong, it's not the first time. Harry was in Alessa's Otherworld, James traveled into Eddie's and Angela's and Henry was in Walter's Otherworld.

There's lots of symbolism in Downpour, but don't feel like writing it all down now.

[schismlurker]

Yeah you are right

One question.. Eddie´s world was the prison???

[devil hunter]

Nah, the big meat locker, freezer thing, where you fight him.

[rollerfan222]

I liked the water ceilings.

[WhiteClaudia]

I would believe you, but that wouldn't be the case for the monsters you encounter. Which are each manifested from Murphy.

Plus, the Prison is definitely manifested from Murphy, as well as the Otherworld. I believe the Void is manifested from Murphy's guilt about the crimes he's committed, not letting him let go because of his inability to let go of the past (his revenge on Napier).

The Bogeyman, of course, is manifested from Anne, and the Wheelman, but in my opinion, that's about it. The only time you see her Otherworld is in St. Maria's. Like in SH2, where you catch glimpses of the others' Otherworlds.

[devil hunter]

There's a possibility that Void might be Anne's monster, symbolizing her rage. I think that prison might be shared, for both Anne and Murphy. I made a theory about red and blue in one thread. Red might symbolize an emotion, rage. There's lots of red in Otherworld and is aggressive, that's why I think it's red. Show's Anne's anger towards Murphy. The area where Anne confronts Murphy is also red, when he "becomes" the Bogeyman.

I also believe there are two Bogeymen. One is sometimes shared with Anne and Murphy (or he might be entirely Murphy's, not sure), but he's for the most part Napier. The other one is Murphy, at least how Anne sees him.

Hell, prisoners might be Anne's monsters too. It seems like she controls them during the last part.

[WhiteClaudia]

Wait, when did she every control them? I know the Wheelman does, but that's not Anne, that's a manifestation of Frank (how Anne saw him), but his monster controls them.

[TheWakingEye]

When she releases them they only attack Murphy and don't seem to bother Anne at all, I believe that's what devil hunter means by her controlling them at the end. I never thought about it like that but it could be possible.

[WhiteClaudia]

Releases? I never saw her release any creatures onto Murphy o.O In fact, we never really see her around other creatures in the first place. Only one is Young Anne, but she doesn't release creatures on Murphy. Unless this is an ending that I haven't gotten.

[devil hunter]

Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm talking about the part where you control Bogeyman/Murphy. Anne is shooting you and activating some switches which release the prisoners.

[TheWakingEye]

Sorry I guess "releases" wasn't the correct way to say it, I meant the switches on the walls she activates to open their cells. But it is kinda interesting that they act as her "minions" on that part, could be significant, I'm having trouble thinking of a good theory though, they must be something different to her, maybe she sees them as fellow guards/police officers haha because if I was her I wouldn't let them loose if they looked like how Murphy sees them, so they must appear different to her. I suppose the only monster she sees is Murphy, at least that's all I gather from the game, Frank too I suppose but I don't think he's a "monster" to her

[the_corinthian]

I enjoyed downpour's otherworld, it looks like some kind of puzzle world, all turned upside down... very mind-screwy and original for the series.

[WhiteClaudia]

Ohhhhh! I guess, I completely missed that when doing that sequence. Either way, when looking at it, it is interesting.

I actually connected each Otherworld to the one we see at the end. I kind of liked to think the Otherworld was, so to speak, the Wheelman's (Frank's/Anne's) Otherworld. In the end, when in the last Otherworld sequence and battle, it is covered in those tubes filled with either blood, or IV chemicals/oxygen, all connected to the Wheelman. In some of the other Otherworld sequences, we see a lot of "clock work", machines moving, almost as if they're "powering" all that medical machinery connected to the Wheelman at the end. I saw each Otherworld sequence, the Wheelman's, and manifested from his experience while in the hospital. The horror and pain he went through, and it's taunting Murphy while in Silent Hill. Just like the Wheelman does throughout the game.

By the way, along with Anne, I actually also believe the Wheelman is manifested from Frank himself. How HE felt about himself while in the hospital, the pain and agony that he went through.: useless, a lump of flesh bound to a chair, a monster.

[clips7]

I thought the otherworlds were ok...i wasn't particularily fond of the chase sequences, but i did like the Hansel and Gretel set-piece and i loved how you interacted with the movie screen in the theatre...there was small tid-bits here and there like what somebody mentioned in terms of the water flowing on the ceiling, and there was another small set-piece where you was walking thru a somewhat small cardboard maze.

Very interesting and i liked how Murphy and Anne shared these otherworlds, the bladed booby-trap areas felt a bit out of place, but i'm glad they tried something new in this aspect and i don't fault them at all for trying, the running up the steps forever was a nice touch and the only thing that ruined it for me was that i read about it on either this or another forum, but the first time you experience it, i'm sure it will catch everybody off guard!