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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by Floodclaw on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:16 am

Just theorizing here:
Since I don't think the film is gonna follow the 'god in the womb' story of Silent Hill 3, I started thinking about possible replacements. Considering it's a sequel to the first film and Revelation is in the title, perhaps the climax of the film will be Heather facing off against Memory of Alessa? Maybe something concerning the Order wanting to harness Alessa's powers, to reawaken her true self or something along those lines.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by Purramid_Head on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:01 am

But then why release those screens so early?
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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by JKristine35 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:19 pm

I doubt it. I think Bassett or Moss said Claudia is the main antagonist, so the finale will likely center around her. I also believe there will be a god fetus in the movie, due to artworks made by Roger Avary's concept artist depicting a fetus in a womb. Of coourse, Bassett said he rewrote a good deal of what Avary had done, but the pictures suggest there was at one time a version of the god storyline, so that may still be there. My personal speculation on the storyline is this: I think Claudia and Alessa were childhood friends, until Alessa was burned and the town was abandoned. Claudia and Leonard survived the fire and they, like everyone else, thought Alessa was dead. Claudia becomes a fanatical member of the Order and begins to seek ways to birth the god and bring about paradise. She eventually divines that Alessa is still alive and has been reborn into Sharon's body, so she sends her men after her. Sharon/Alessa and Chris change their names to Heather and Harry to escape the Order, but Claudia finds them eventually. She does something to force the pregnancy (the ritual doesn't have to look anything like the one in the game to still work for the film), Heather resists, coughs up god, and then fights either Claudia or god as the final boss. I'm so hoping the god vomiting/eating scene makes it into the movie. That would be the most horrible and awesome thing to ever grace cinema screens. :D

Another thought: Malcolm McDowell said his character has been in prison for 30 years, which is pretty close to the same time span between the movie's events and when the town burned. I wonder if Leonard was accused of having something to do with the fire.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by gustavopi on Sat May 05, 2012 12:07 am

I'm expecting something like Resident Evil, hoping to be wrong. Also I'm curious about the link with Alessa/Sharon you mention: in the first movie, they are dead and the mythology is the limbo - so they can't come back. Basset will need to mix with some reincarnation myth to do it.

Maybe instead of fighting god, Heater and Claudia fall into a MMA ring without any guns...
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by JKristine35 on Sat May 05, 2012 10:53 am

They are not dead. Sharon/Alessa, Dahlia, and Rose are very much alive, they are simply in an alternate reality. The reality was created by Alessa's powers, and is controlled entirely by her, so she has the ability to leave or return anytime she wants. The only question is why she would want to leave, given that the end of the first movie makes it clear that she's happy there, and wants to stay there with her new mom. The absence of Rose in the plot synopsis suggests that something happened to her (my guess is she commits suicide once she realizes she's trapped in an alternate reality and her beloved daughter is now something very different), which would be the emotional push needed for Bassett to explain Sharon/Alessa becoming so distraught that she flees her own world and represses her memory.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by gustavopi on Sun May 06, 2012 9:44 pm

My interpretation was that they die in the city and fall into the alternate reality. Sharon and Rose in the car crash and Cybil fall with the bike. In the end,

REVEAL SPOILER
Rose explain to the people that they are all dead and trapped in this "limbo", Dahlia keep they in an avoidance state that keep the devil away so they cannot be dragged into Inferno - a little of Dante.


But I'm not very sure, I'll have to see it again. Maybe there isn't a single interpretation, the mythology is unclear in opposition to other movies where the protagonist open some books etc..

As we can see, a sequel isn't easy to make. It's easy to gess, but to write everything to be filmed and make sense... good luck for Basset!
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by JKristine35 on Sun May 06, 2012 10:35 pm

Well as far as Revelation is concerned, Bassett has stated on his blog that he will not be retconning Gans' viewpoint of the film, and Gans has said in interviews that no one dies to enter the alternate reality, that the Fog World only symbolically represents purgatory, and that there is no literal devil in the film. So it's most likely that Heather is Sharon/Alessa 8 years after the events of the first film.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by gustavopi on Tue May 08, 2012 3:58 pm

So to be unconscious is the door in, maybe she should beat her head somewhere to get out!

What I see in the scene:
REVEAL SPOILER
She break and turn to left to the mountain (in the right there is a guard rail) and try to correct turning to the right, but the car goes out of the road, beat and she is projected with the impact. There is no air-bag and at that speed I assume they both die. When she wake up, the car is in other place, still inside the road.


I think the scene is good, but is a cliché of a car crash that CAN lead to the conclusion that she die.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by JKristine35 on Tue May 08, 2012 5:57 pm

There's no reason to believe anyone has to be unconcious to enter the alternate reality. Alessa herself was fully concious when she created that world and crossed over, so why should everyone else have to be different? It doesn't make much sense that the cultists were unconcious when they were pulled in, or Alessa could have killed them in their sleep (it takes both Rose and Cybil awhile to wake up, during which time Alessa could have shifted the worlds and had her monsters slaughter them if she so chose). The only way the cultists would have survived would be if they started running immediately and made it to the church. Only 3 people are shown being knocked out when they cross over, and there are reasons why Alessa would want all 3 of them unconcious. Alessa needed Rose to black out so she could separate Sharon from her, thus causing Rose to follow Dark Alessa everywhere. Sharon needed to be unconcious so Alessa could make her sleepwalk to Dahlia's apartment, ensuring she would not be found or harmed by the cultists until the time was right. Cybil's time spent blacked out allowed Alessa to begin her game with Rose without interruption (if you notice, Alessa makes sure Cybil never sees her).

When the car crashes, Rose is seen hitting her head on the steering wheel, at which point her body reaches a full stop. She wasn't projected from the car at any point. While the car crash and hotel fire alone make it look to some like death is required to enter the alternate reality, there's evidence scattered throughout the film contradicting this. All of the cultists age 30 years, Dahlia ages 30 years, and Alessa is shown with an adult body and healed skin at the end of the movie. Anna's youthfulness in contrast to the older cultists implies she was likely born in the alternate reality. Alessa's police report states all of the cultists escaped the fire alive. Officer Gucci specifically points out that Rose's and Sharon's bodies were never found, as well as the bodies of the cultists. The newspaper articles Chris reads further this distinction between those who died and those who disappeared, saying that so many peoople disappeared that night, it baffled police and local officials, leading to theorizing that many townspeople may have fled into the nearby hills. Given all this, it seems clear to me that no one in the alternate reality is dead until Alessa kills them.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by gustavopi on Thu May 10, 2012 7:19 pm

Well, I wasn't fully serious when I mention to be unconscious to get in alternate reality - but is still an interesting idea. Following this information, this mechanics is unclear, witch is good for a sequel. At the end...
REVEAL SPOILER
nobody get out, as the games...

so the game will not guide this aspects for sure. In the game, there is two important points:
REVEAL SPOILER
Harry's death and Memory's of Alessa's death.

but the climax is the ending sequence in the basement of the church.

Oh, yeah, we forgot Pyramid Head, where, in the God's name, Basset will put this guy???
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by Floodclaw on Fri May 11, 2012 1:06 am

He seems like he's just gonna make a cameo turning some valves in the Memory of Alessa confrontation, if that one screenshot is any indication.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Could the climax of the film be Memory of Alessa?

Post by Q. Valintyne on Fri May 11, 2012 2:24 am

As much as I've read about it, I think that will be the only scene with him as well.

REVEAL SPOILER
I'd love to see him rip the skin off of some helpless person again... lol.


I just want to see it already. :/
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by gustavopi on Fri May 11, 2012 2:39 pm

Oh yeah, that scene was amazing to me. And he trow it at the door and the blood sprayed at she's face - cool scary scene! I want it again too!
 
 
 
 


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