This is not Silent Hill

[TeamSilent4Life]

My 1st 'modern' Silent Hill & wow. This game is so far removed from the originals its a joke. It isn't scary in the slightest. The otherworld is an embarrassment & an insult to the series. Its more Alice Madness than the fear of the unknown . The story is pure 'Amercanized' redkneck horror.

Compare this to the 1st 4 stories & its laughable. I played the prison segment earlier on SH2 & immediately traded Downpour in afterwards. This is the most boring game ive played all year. The combat is digusting. This is the 1st & the last modern SH I will ever buy .

[Floodclaw]

Ha, that's a good one!
...Wait, you're being serious, aren't you?

It's fine to have an opinion, and I will respect that, but damned if I don't disagree with it. It's not Americanized. It's made by a Czech developer. I find it frankly insulting that you would assume that anything that isn't pure Japanese waifu is 'Americanized'.

I do agree with you on one point, though, Downpour is not scary. I was only slightly creeped out at some points in the story, but that's about it.
But then again, I did not find Silent Hill 2 scary at all either. I also found Silent Hill 2's combat clunky, disgusting, and not at all effective. By your logic, wouldn't that make Silent Hill 2 also a bad game?

[TeamSilent4Life]

Ha, that's a good one!
...Wait, you're being serious, aren't you?

It's fine to have an opinion, and I will respect that, but damned if I don't disagree with it. It's not Americanized. It's made by a Czech developer. I find it frankly insulting that you would assume that anything that isn't pure Japanese waifu is 'Americanized'.

I do agree with you on one point, though, Downpour is not scary. I was only slightly creeped out at some points in the story, but that's about it.
But then again, I did not find Silent Hill 2 scary at all either. I also found Silent Hill 2's combat clunky, disgusting, and not at all effective. By your logic, wouldn't that make Silent Hill 2 also a bad game?

SH2 combat was still engaging. Downpours combat feels like a chore. SH2 was oppressive, unnerving.

[Arsenic13]

Feel free to dislike the game, but jeez, maybe tone it down?

Americanized -- Eastern European made.

SH2 combat engaging? Press to whack, press to shoot. It's fairly simple. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqoEzrTyycE

[what]

At least you warned us ahead of time you were going to hate it, so thanks for that!

[TeamSilent4Life]

I lied I still have the game but im thinking of returning it. Ill admit im not very far into the game but so far its very boring. Silent Hill is supposed to be about fear & mood, this is anything but. The survival aspect of the game is very well done & is a refreshing change from most games on the market. But weres the sense of dread? Silent Hill without fear isn't Silent Hill. Theres a reason why modern SH's have tanked..

[emma]

i do respect every thing you said about it....that's YOUR opinion but if its to me !...no way !U_U i can't agree with what your saying about the game ! ....its perfectly great for me~:) as its SCARY! yeah it does that's all i want to say ^^...

[Purramid_Head]

Yes, because tank controls were certainly engaging which is why SH2 was so boring in the combat department. I actually find SM's chase scenes to be more engaging tbh, because you're allowed more defensive maunervering. It's actually imo, inaccurate to say SM has no combat come to think of it, because Harry uses a few defensive moves.

Also, is "americanized" a new cuss word to call something as an insult? Well, I guess being Japanese and trying to be AMERICAN AS POSSIBLE is where your standards lie, does it not?

[WhiteClaudia]

I do not agree, but all I'm gonna say is, you opened up a BIG can of worms... Will admit you have some guts posting this, but I'm not really sure what the goal of it was... Anyways, it's your opinion.

[Mercury]

I lied I still have the game but im thinking of returning it. Ill admit im not very far into the game but so far its very boring. Silent Hill is supposed to be about fear & mood, this is anything but. The survival aspect of the game is very well done & is a refreshing change from most games on the market. But weres the sense of dread? Silent Hill without fear isn't Silent Hill. Theres a reason why modern SH's have tanked..

Don't feel pressured to love it, but at least try to finish it before you write it off. I feel like too many fans think that different = bad.

[what]

I lied I still have the game but im thinking of returning it. Ill admit im not very far into the game but so far its very boring. Silent Hill is supposed to be about fear & mood, this is anything but. The survival aspect of the game is very well done & is a refreshing change from most games on the market. But weres the sense of dread? Silent Hill without fear isn't Silent Hill. Theres a reason why modern SH's have tanked..

Don't feel pressured to love it, but at least try to finish it before you write it off. I feel like too many fans think that different = bad.

Those same fans tend to think that "I don't like this game" = "This game is not what Silent Hill should be".

Such astounding, infuriating arrogance to think you have the authority to define what Silent Hill should and should not be. You didn't write the goddamn thing.

[Wren]

That's perfectly alright that you feel that way, babe. I don't agree with what you said, but I can understand where you are coming from.

Just as long as that really is your opinion. There seems to be this gigantic fissure in the fanbase. One side thinks anything with "Silent Hill" slapped on it is the bee's knees. The other side thinks that everything after 3 or 4 is total garbage.

When you really stop to think about it, *both* of those extremes are unnecessary and harmful. We obviously have to have standards or the future games will dissolve into random bullshit that has no real meaning. But we can't all hate or love on something just because those around us feel a similar way. It's very important that you make up your own mind. That goes for the entire fandom, not just any one person in particular. But I decided to bring it up in this thread because of the subject matter, combined with your username.

[devil hunter]

When I read the thread title I knew this is gonna be painful.

My 1st 'modern' Silent Hill & wow. This game is so far removed from the originals its a joke. It isn't scary in the slightest. The otherworld is an embarrassment & an insult to the series. Its more Alice Madness than the fear of the unknown . The story is pure 'Amercanized' redkneck horror.

How is it far removed to from the first games (why do people even use the term "originals")? OK, it's not scary, but that doesn't mean it sucks. And don't tell me that it sucks because it's different.
Why exactly is an Otherworld embarrassment? Is it because it's different? I personally liked the Otherworld because it's weird and mindscrewy. I wish we had less chase sequences though. Just because it's not like, for example, SH 3's Otherworld doesn't mean it sucks. Maybe it's not your cup of tea, but it's not an insult and embarrassment to the series.
That's like playing SH 1, then playing SH 2 and seeing how different it is and saying that it's an insult to the first game.
Also, the "fear of unknown" was lost for me after the first, maybe second game. You know why? Because I got some answers what exactly is happening to the town, what the Otherworld is, why the monsters are there etc., no fear of the unknown.

The story is pure "Americanized" redneck horror?

I'm sorry, I think there's been a mistake, I think you rented Wrong Turn movie and mistook it for SH Downpour. Also, americanized? The whole series is based on western horror, only game that has j-horror is SH 4 and even that one still has western horror. So, how did it got "americanized"? Btw. It's made by Czech studio, don't tell me you're one of those people who think that all post TS games are made by Americans? Plus that whole "americanized redneck horror" is kind of insulting towards Americans.

Compare this to the 1st 4 stories & its laughable. I played the prison segment earlier on SH2 & immediately traded Downpour in afterwards.

OK, from what I understood you didn't even finished the game, so how can you write something like that? It's OK if you didn't like the story, but saying that it's laughable when compared to other games in the series without even finishing the game is just stupid.

Sorry for being harsh but that kind of stuff is just D:

This is the most boring game ive played all year.

I guess you didn't play many games this year, or in your whole life. What exactly makes it boring? At least explain why you think it's boring. It not being scary does not make it boring btw.

The combat is digusting.

Welcome to the SH series.

This is the 1st & the last modern SH I will ever buy

OK, so you'll miss out on the stuff you might like.

I'm sorry, this whole post is just laughable, I don't have anything against you, or against your opinion, but at least name some examples for stuff you wrote. What makes it boring? How is the story laughable? Why do you think it's redneck horror? Why do you hate Americans?

Name some valid problems with the game. Don't write stuff like "It's americanized redneck horror, Otherowrld is an insult to the series etc."

Childish SH fans who jerk off on the name Team Silent and think they are the ones who helped in making the games write stuff like that.

And sorry, but this IS Silent Hill, no matter how much you thought it isn't, other people think it is.

[rollerfan222]

I cannot digest this post, It's got Twin-Perfect written all over it. God are we even serious?

Vatra is from Czech Republic EUROPE, let me help you out:



The only thing i agree with you on is that Downpour's combat may be the worst in the series.

(take note im not a big fan of Downpour myself, It's just that I'm fucking tired of this kind of people)

The worst of all this is that like most of TP's peons you seem to actually not be trolling. (excuse me if i'm categorizing)

I understand it's your opinion, but it's not rational at all.

[OneFreeMan]

1.If that's you opinion, fine.

2. If you haven't finished the game, you haven't played the game. It's like watching the first hour of say the Godfather and saying "Oh I watched the Godfather". No you haven't.

3.I personally don't mind the combat in SH:D. It's not like the combat is the main focal point of the game.

4. I hate the term 'Americanized'. Are you trying to say that America is incapable of creating good horror. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't some of the influence's to the earlier Silent Hill's American film's like Jacobs Ladder, Session 9 and the Shining. I think you go on dangerous ground when you labial some thing 'Americanized' in a negative way. I try to judge games on it own merit rather than include there nationality which to me doesn't really matter.

[Axiomatic]

I'm fine with you stating your opinion, but I do have a problem with your argument.

The combat in the Silent Hill series is a low point, so I wouldn't single out Downpour for this.

I have an issue with saying the game is Americanized as if to suggest that it's some watered down, inferior version of far more quality game making from Japanese developers. It just doesn't make sense.

Bash Silent Hill: Downpour all you'd like, but understand that the criticism you offer should deal with the failures of the game in a logical manner and not rest on an assumption of how the games should be.

A lot of people assume Silent Hill should be a particular way, but the games are made they are made. Whether you enjoy them or not is up to you. But some good arguments have to be there otherwise hellfire might rain down

[TeamSilent4Life]

I wouldn't have a problem if the game was scary because it would justify the exploration somwhat. Thats why I find it dull. I grew up with SH acknowledging it as a truly horrifying experience with impending fear at every turn. SH isn't just any game to me. I expect a good horror game at the very least. This isn't horror because its not remotely scary, therefore this isn't SH IMO.

Can u honestly tell me u can defend a visibly colourful red light chasing u in comparison to the fear, rust & unknown the Otherworld once was? Its become a gimmick . The game is a parody of its former self. Im sorry but thats my opinion, take it or leave it. Im not going to false praise it just because im on a dedicated SH forum.

[devil hunter]

Dude if I gave up on a game just because I don't find it scary I wouldn't play a lot of horror games.

Otherworld is not just about rust. I'll be happy to defend Downpour's Otherworld, because I find it interesting, it's also very mindscrewy in places, which I like. I just wish we could have explored it more, instead of running from the Void. But hey, that's just a minor problem and it doesn't affect me when I say that Downpour is my third favorite SH game and that Murphy is my personal favorite SH protagonist. Hell, I'll be happy to say that I find Void pretty scary, not in gameplay, because I don't find a lot of SH monsters that scary. I got a gun or some melee weapon, health kits ready, bring on the monsters!

I find Void scary because of what it is. I'ts a fast sentient black hole that's chasing after you. It also seems to be ripping the pieces of Murphy's very existence when it gets near him. That's pretty scary and fucked up.

At least finish the game before forming an opinion. Also, how can Downpour be a parody of its former self?

Btw. I didn't think SH 2 is scary, therefore that means it's not a SH game right?

Nobody says you have to praise the game, hell, not everyone here is a fan of Downpour, but they at least finished it and have good reasons for not liking it.

And you're gonna give up on playing other SH games you didn't play just because you didn't thought Downpour is scary? I'm sorry, but that's silly.

[HalfTransition]

I cannot digest this post, It's got Twin-Perfect written all over it. God are we even serious?

(take note im not a big fan of Downpour myself, It's just that I'm fucking tired of this kind of people)

The worst of all this is that like most of TP's peons you seem to actually not be trolling. (excuse me if i'm categorizing)

So, because someone hates downpour, it means he's a TP fanboy?

I personally don't really like Downpour because to me, it's is TOO different from the older games. Yet, I hate twin perfect and I have nothing against western devs ( I loved SH Origins and Shattered Memories)

[devil hunter]

So, because someone hates downpour, it means he's a TP fanboy?

I personally don't really like Downpour because to me, it's is TOO different from the older games. Yet, I hate twin perfect and I have nothing against western devs ( I loved SH Origins and Shattered Memories)

Rollerfan is also not a big fan of Downpour and he's not a TP fanboy.
Stuff like this what that guy wrote gave him that vibe:

The story is pure 'Amercanized' redkneck horror.

That is totally something what they would say.
Also, how can he form an opinion like that before even finishing the game? I probably sound like a broken record.

Don't really understand why you don't like Downpour because it's too different and you like SM. Downpour isn't really so different from previous games. In many ways it tries to be like the older ones, without trying to copy them and it brings something new.