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Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:34 am
by PinentidHead
We are just a few in this forum now, but qualified ones, though. I would like to hear your opinion on this. I am a bit away of this universe, I could not build a PC strong enough to run most of this kind of game. This year I could install a Win10 in my Macbook so at list some of Horror Survival of this decade I can finally play - even with some difficulties. I will not be able to buy and play all has been made under Silent Hill influences, so I am trying to select a few with my faulty flashlight.

The last one I played was Alan Wake on Steam. I bought even before my Windows were working, since it was the sunset for it (now or never moment). It was disappointing, and the motivation of this post. The game make a promise that is not fulfilled. Me and many analysts see the strong influences of the franchise right from the beginning, but in the middle we have that feeling... and at the end we have just a cliché and opened questions for DLCs. I didn't find a deep analysis for the ending, maybe there isn't one because there is no deep at all, and this is valid for a lot of other games. Some of these games are still good to play, as Alan Wake, others are really bad developed, some are expansive or need an expansive PC to play, so it is better to make a selection of where to put our money and time. Another example is Dread Out that got a lot of complains about the Windows version and it is unplayable at all in macOS version.

Finally, I am also asking because there is a lot of games in development right now with the light (or darkness) of Silent Hill, can we be hopeful, or the past is showing that a SHSS will be a black perl?

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:40 am
by Otherworld
I choose "Very Rare" I do not think there are any games out the that could be listed as a Silent Hill spiritual successor.

There are very little games IMO that come close to the game released by this franchise.

The most recent that come to mind as far as them being compared to the SH universe are RE7 and Hellblade.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:42 pm
by PinentidHead
^ I am with "Very Rare" choice too. I remember Amnesia, a well produced game that works hard on psychological elements to obtain disturb, fear and tension. It does not go so deep inside the characters but still can create a story "by pieces" as the background.

Many games producers make confusion with quality and game genre. A beautiful full detailed HD image is not enough, as monsters as zombies won't generate Horror Survival by itself, nor even fear. Everything got to work together synchronized to generate the expected effect. In these games, glitches, unstable frame rate, clichés, etc. will ruin quickly the experience.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:08 pm
by Tabris
I went with 'very rare' as well.

Nothing really fills Silent Hill's boots properly (in my experience so far). There's a ton of great horror games out there but as a true spiritual successor? Not yet. But I also may have not yet played it either.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:25 am
by Deer Rest FOA
Wikipedia doesn't even list Alan Wake as a horror game. I disagree. It still has enough to qualify it as a horror game in my view.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:40 am
by Otherworld
Deer Rest FOA wrote:Wikipedia doesn't even list Alan Wake as a horror game. I disagree. It still has enough to qualify it as a horror game in my view.


What does it list it as?

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:09 pm
by PinentidHead
^ This is interesting. In the pt page, it is listed as survival horror, but in the en version, it is action-adventure. Usually, the en versions are more complete and reliable, but this is a basic error. Maybe I am underestimating Brazil, there is a reason for Ideo Kojima coming here...

I've been trying Outlast and Layers of Fear. As I am enjoying Outlast, I am not please with Layers of Fear. I had no luck with Unity games so far, all full of bugs, mostly platform bugs, even some ugly ones as allowing notices when playing - brakes the mood badly! Also both have similar graphics quality, but Outlast runs really better. Unlikely I will buy another Unity game again!

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:00 am
by Xuchilbara
For myself.... The closest game is Rule of Rose. It doesn't use similar themes or symbols. But it's psychological and uses similar execution.

It's a work of art in the breathe of 2. It's "movie-like" when playing and combat is never a focus.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:03 am
by PinentidHead
I remember saw it in a list of PS2 horror survival games, but got no good reviews average, than I gave up buying it. Dit I miss it? Now it costs more than a PS2... I don't like to download games to test before to buy, but sometimes the reviewers screw me, specially with this genre of game.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:36 pm
by Tabris
I only played maybe half of Rule of Rose (I think?). It's one of the most conflicting fucking gaming experiences of my life.

On one hand, it's extremely beautiful in so many ways. It has a lotttt going for it when it comes to the 'artsy' aspect of it. I was in a constant state of wanting to see what next.

On the other, the gameplay is so astoundingly terrible that I find it fucking near unplayable. I kind of hated playing it sometimes.

I find myself wanting to give it another go but I always remember the combat and some of the fights bleh.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:23 am
by Xuchilbara
I watched a no commentary lets play of it. But if that isn't your fancy I suggest cheating with Action Replay. The gameplay is so infuriating at times, I actually actively encourage cheating/hacking the game just because the story is so beautifully done.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:00 pm
by PinentidHead
Tabris wrote:I only played maybe half of Rule of Rose (I think?). It's one of the most conflicting fucking gaming experiences of my life.

On one hand, it's extremely beautiful in so many ways. It has a lotttt going for it when it comes to the 'artsy' aspect of it. I was in a constant state of wanting to see what next.

On the other, the gameplay is so astoundingly terrible that I find it fucking near unplayable. I kind of hated playing it sometimes.

I find myself wanting to give it another go but I always remember the combat and some of the fights bleh.

To balance narrative with gameplay is a hard job - specially for horror games. If you have to retry many times, specially if you have to replay a long path before be able to try again. I miss the gameplay of SH1 when playing SH2 or SH3, but I know could ruin the experience, probably. I think SH4 fails in this balance.

Any developer must have this balance issue in mind when trying to succeed Silent Hill.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:54 am
by Tabris
Xuchilbara wrote:The gameplay is so infuriating at times, I actually actively encourage cheating/hacking the game just because the story is so beautifully done.


This is basically exactly how I feel about it. I know I'm missing out on something beautiful but holy shit it's basically unplayable sometimes.

One day I guess.

Re: Is there really a Silent Hill spiritual successor?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:23 pm
by Deer Rest FOA
Fortunately, I retained my Xploder and Action Replay cheat discs.