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Post by Pazuzu on Tue May 09, 2017 5:54 pm

As a long-time Friday The 13th fan who's also a big Silent Hill fan, I'd love to see how this might happen. Jason Voorhees, notorious mass murderer who seemingly never dies and always comes back to kill again somehow finds himself in Silent Hill. I know what some of you might be thinking, Jason is immortal and can never die and would likely not be affected by Silent Hill's powers. But therein is exactly how it could work; immortality can arguably be so much more of a curse than a blessing and in Jason's case it certainly can be seen as such, as he lives only to keep on killing even after he already avenged his mother's death. The town of Silent Hill could really toy with Jason psychologically in that regard, showing how because he can't die he's essentially doomed to keep suffering and how he'll never truly join his mother in death and be at peace.

Taking into account the symbolic aspects of the SH monsters and how SH itself brings to life the worst fears of those who enter, it'd have plenty to go on such as Jason's traumatic childhood where he was likely bullied and shunned by the outside world for his appearance. Seeing as SH generates it's monsters to reflect the fears and hate of those who enter it, I can see Jason encountering monsters similar to the Grey Children and Rompers from the original, as the Greys could represent the kids who bullied and mocked him, and the Rompers could also potentially represent cruel adults who never helped him as a child. He obviously hates humans and I could see him encountering creatures that would represent his hate of people and how he's doomed to keep on killing and ultimately never achieve a true goal. Some might mention Jason being afraid of water due to Freddy Vs. Jason but that wasn't actually a fear of water, rather a subsconscious fear of drowning as that's how Jason originally died (if it can be described as that). SH could certainly torment him using that, making him re-live those horrific memories to bring him down. If it can't kill him it could certainly use his most vulnerable points to make him suffer.

Although Jason is unkillable and has superhuman strength, he'd be up against enemies he's not used to who can match him in terms of strength with the monsters he'd encounter along the way. With how good he is with weaponry he'd likely find his share of bladed and sharp implements along the way that are usually scattered throughout SH (just imagine him with something like the rock drill from SH1 or the emergency hammer). I know there's lots of SH fans who dislike the usage of Pyramid Head outside of SH2, but who knows if Jason could run into him and square off. Pyramid Head in Jason's mind could be representative of how Jason himself is a death figure and he's up against a similar figure who's sole purpose is to be an executioner (if you buy that backstory for Pyramid Head in the SH movie). Thinking it over, Jason vs. Pyramid Head in this regard is actually a battle that would make sense as Pyramid Head can be seen as a figure who exists solely to punish and kill, much like Jason himself. Jason essentially being up against a death figure much like himself.

I think this crossover done right would be all sorts of awesome and also be a good way to explore the more psychological and troubled aspects of Jason's character, which we've very rarely seen over the course of the F13 series. How do you see things faring for Jason Voorhees if somehow he wound up in Silent Hill?
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Wilsden Hills on Wed May 10, 2017 6:20 am

I'm sure that Jason, along with whoever owns his franchise, would get very bored sitting around in Silent Hill waiting, as the rest of us, for something to happen there. ;)

However, if we're playing celebrity deathmatch, can I send Judge Dredd into town please? Or Jose Mourinho?
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Post by Pazuzu on Wed May 10, 2017 12:17 pm

It'd be interesting to see how certain other characters might fare in Silent Hill if somehow they wound up there. Certain people are affected differently depending on what they bring internally.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Royal Fizzbin on Wed May 10, 2017 11:36 pm

If James can wooden plank his way through the monster infested streets, it stands to reason that Voorhees would be dicing ‘em up no problem. But, just what happens when Jason comes to an area of Silent Hill that he can’t advance through unless he first solves a puzzle?
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Oohfakanorus on Thu May 11, 2017 8:24 am

Royal Fizzbin wrote:If James can wooden plank his way through the monster infested streets, it stands to reason that Voorhees would be dicing ‘em up no problem. But, just what happens when Jason comes to an area of Silent Hill that he can’t advance through unless he first solves a puzzle?


Thought about that and...

You have a human in another dimension etc that you keep alive even though they aren't in front or could be touched by Jason.
You still play as Jason, but actions keep alive another group of humans in their fight.
Grad I've lost you.

Not an escort mission like Silent Hill 4. But your progress and length of time without dying adds to a cutscene where you see the people from another dimension survived and also allows their human hands to solve puzzles.
Of course the game would have to end as the cutscene leads to the opportunity to have the surviving human (Unplayable humanS?) killed by Jason before going on to fight big boss..

So all the time you think you are helping the humans to escape, you are in fact bringing them closer and closer to the dimension where Jason is there to kill.
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Post by Otherworld on Thu May 11, 2017 9:55 am

Royal Fizzbin wrote:If James can wooden plank his way through the monster infested streets, it stands to reason that Voorhees would be dicing ‘em up no problem. But, just what happens when Jason comes to an area of Silent Hill that he can’t advance through unless he first solves a puzzle?


I know one things for sure..... Jason would definitely have a date with Toluca Lake.....

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Post by Pazuzu on Thu May 11, 2017 4:12 pm

I'd be interested to see the monsters SH would manifest to reflect Jason's own inner turmoil. As I said in the original post, I can see creatures similar to the Rompers and Grey Children in Jason's own Silent Hill.

Although both are different, Jason and Alessa actually share some strong similarities. The two have no reason to ever meet, but they have their share of things in common for sure.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Royal Fizzbin on Fri May 12, 2017 7:23 am

Oohfakanorus wrote:Thought about that and...

You have a human in another dimension etc that you keep alive even though they aren't in front or could be touched by Jason.
You still play as Jason, but actions keep alive another group of humans in their fight.
Grad I've lost you.

Not an escort mission like Silent Hill 4. But your progress and length of time without dying adds to a cutscene where you see the people from another dimension survived and also allows their human hands to solve puzzles.
Of course the game would have to end as the cutscene leads to the opportunity to have the surviving human (Unplayable humanS?) killed by Jason before going on to fight big boss..

So all the time you think you are helping the humans to escape, you are in fact bringing them closer and closer to the dimension where Jason is there to kill.


Could work as a gameplay mechanic. Which silent hill would Jason be in, real world, fog world, or nightmare world? Would it be like SH2 with Jason confronting personal demons, or would it be a SH1/SH3 story with him killing cult members while they attempt to summon the old god somehow?


Pazuzu wrote:It'd be interesting to see how certain other characters might fare in Silent Hill if somehow they wound up there. Certain people are affected differently depending on what they bring internally.


A silent hill/hellraiser crossover could be interesting. Wouldn’t want it as a videogame but maybe in the form of a graphic novel. The main character already deep in the nightmare world silent hill opens the lament configuration and creates a gate for the cenobites into silent hill. Could be interesting.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Pazuzu on Fri May 12, 2017 7:08 pm

I think him experiencing his own inner demons and seeing SH manifest the Fog World and Otherworld for him would probably work better, but it could also be interesting to see the cult worked into it. Perhaps they might see him as something of an instrument for their cause. I'd really like to see how his Otherworld would look.

I think this crossover and the Hellraiser one would both be interesting to see as a graphic novel and it's well suited for that media. Though the more I think about it, F13/SH as a special event game could also work.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Pazuzu on Mon May 29, 2017 12:29 am

Seeing the footage of the recent F13 game got me thinking about this again.

I know lots of SH fans dislike the usage of Pyramid Head outside of SH2 where they feel PH is meant to be James' own personal monster, but just as a "what if?" type of scenario, I wonder how an encounter between the two might go down? I like the belief some fans have that PH has always existed and the PH seen in SH2 is simply serving his purpose to act as James' punisher to fulfill James' desire to be punished. I think in some ways PH could actually be symbolic of Jason in a way as much like Jason, PH is faceless and could be a figure of vengeance and punishment, which are what Jason solely exists for since the death of his mother and even after the fact.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Otherworld on Mon May 29, 2017 8:38 am

Pazuzu wrote:Seeing the footage of the recent F13 game got me thinking about this again.

I know lots of SH fans dislike the usage of Pyramid Head outside of SH2 where they feel PH is meant to be James' own personal monster, but just as a "what if?" type of scenario, I wonder how an encounter between the two might go down? I like the belief some fans have that PH has always existed and the PH seen in SH2 is simply serving his purpose to act as James' punisher to fulfill James' desire to be punished. I think in some ways PH could actually be symbolic of Jason in a way as much like Jason, PH is faceless and could be a figure of vengeance and punishment, which are what Jason solely exists for since the death of his mother and even after the fact.


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Post by Pazuzu on Mon May 29, 2017 6:05 pm

It's not even that Jason is afraid of water so much as he still has oppressive and harrowing memories of his drowning. Which I got to wonder how Silent Hill would use that against him.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Otherworld on Tue May 30, 2017 8:40 am

If we are talking water and Silent Hill then we have to talk about the below ....

Toluca lake

After becoming a sightseeing area, a series of misfortunes befall the town
With the closing of Wiltse coal mine came the attempted reinvention of the town as a tourist attraction. However, due to a succession of boating accidents the town gained a poor reputation as a sightseeing area.

The famous Toluca Lake is a place that overflows with atmosphere. It is known as an ominous lake that has become completely shrouded in a pervasive mist.
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If Jason ends up in Silent Hill he will surely end up on the shores of Toluca Lake .....
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Post by Pazuzu on Tue May 30, 2017 5:12 pm

Would definitely be very interesting to see how he'd fare at Toluca Lake. Without a doubt he would be re-living his drowning experiences.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Pazuzu on Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:10 pm

Also thinking back to this, I wonder how things would go do between Jason and Alessa if they'd ever met? The two have some strong similarities. Jason went up against a somewhat similar character before in Friday The 13th Part VII, against Tina. Jason usually just kills anything in his way and with Alessa would be no different, but he's never been up against someone quite like her before.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Otherworld on Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:34 am

Pazuzu wrote:Also thinking back to this, I wonder how things would go do between Jason and Alessa if they'd ever met? The two have some strong similarities. Jason went up against a somewhat similar character before in Friday The 13th Part VII, against Tina. Jason usually just kills anything in his way and with Alessa would be no different, but he's never been up against someone quite like her before.


Alessa had the power of the land to compliment her own power. That seems like a lot more power than Jason ever had.
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Post by Pazuzu on Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:25 pm

Alessa is similar in the sense she was bullied and ostracized for being different much like Jason was and both also have unstable mothers albeit with differing motives (Dahlia wanted to use Alessa to birth the God while Pamela Voorhees avenged her son). Jason is very one-minded in the sense he's out for vengeance and kills indiscriminately, but you got to wonder if somewhere in his mind he can relate to Alessa. Both are outsiders.

I think Jason's own SH would probably share some similar monsters as Alessa does like with the Grey Children, but taking a cue from SH2 I wonder what else the town of Silent Hill might manifest for Jason to reflect his damaged mind.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Otherworld on Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:44 am

Pazuzu wrote:Alessa is similar in the sense she was bullied and ostracized for being different much like Jason was and both also have unstable mothers albeit with differing motives (Dahlia wanted to use Alessa to birth the God while Pamela Voorhees avenged her son). Jason is very one-minded in the sense he's out for vengeance and kills indiscriminately, but you got to wonder if somewhere in his mind he can relate to Alessa. Both are outsiders.

I think Jason's own SH would probably share some similar monsters as Alessa does like with the Grey Children, but taking a cue from SH2 I wonder what else the town of Silent Hill might manifest for Jason to reflect his damaged mind.



This all really depends on when Jason would enter Silent hill. If it is anytime after the events of the first game, he would not be able to enter himself. He would be called. That really changes the entire dynamic of this conversation.

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Those who have guilt are summoned.
Due to the appearance of the otherworld on a massive scale in the first game, the town has come to be a place that calls those who hold a profound darkness in their hearts. It seems that people with afflicted minds are easily drawn to the otherworld The town calls to those who bear the weight of some crime and shows them what is in their hearts..
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Post by Pazuzu on Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:36 pm

Jason certainly has enough darkness in him for Silent Hill to beckon him to enter. Despite avenging his mother's death he continues to kill and doesn't stop, having a bloodlust he can never satisfy. That's more than enough for Silent Hill to feed off of. Also with Silent Hill in the game canon being in Maine and Crystal Lake being in New Jersey, Jason wouldn't be that overly far away and could probably somehow wind up there. Plus the fact he's unable to die is something Silent Hill could also use against him.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by Pazuzu on Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:07 pm

Thinking back to Jason vs. PH, I was thinking if PH somehow drops the Great Knife during the fight Jason might go for it only to find it's surprisingly heavy and tough even for him to wield, which gives PH an advantage to fight him. Then again if James can wield the Great Knife I reckon Jason could once he gets a feel for the weight.

Also looking at the way the Otherworld in Downpour appears, I could see Jason's version of the Otherworld being somewhat alike that. Something that would reflect his drowning and what led to him in the state he's been in since then.
 
 
 
 
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