Team Silent Question (no fanboy/girl wars plz)

[Jack Ketch]

http://archive.videogamesdaily.com/features/konami_interview_sep04.asp

Kikizo: One of the first things I wanted to ask was about the origins of the concept for Silent Hill 4, the idea of this apartment with a tunnel to an alternate world of horrors - what inspired this idea?

Tsuboyama: We wanted to make a sequel after Silent Hill 3 and you could say that was the initial concept, but upon that we needed to implement a lot of new flavour to the sequel, otherwise it would have been the same old Silent Hill. So for that, we created "The Room" as the concept for the game, so that we could use to represent the contrast between the normal and the abnormal life which changes suddenly. For the scenario we got our general influence from a book called Coin Locker Babies, which was written by a Japanese writer called Ryu Murakami. It talks about a baby abandoned in a coin locker. That was the general background.

It has always been a Silent Hill game.

That's a good interview, thanks for the link!

[NarooN]

Some old mag scans with the SH4 devs being interview:

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[Yuki]

http://archive.videogamesdaily.com/features/konami_interview_sep04.asp

Kikizo: One of the first things I wanted to ask was about the origins of the concept for Silent Hill 4, the idea of this apartment with a tunnel to an alternate world of horrors - what inspired this idea?

Tsuboyama: We wanted to make a sequel after Silent Hill 3 and you could say that was the initial concept, but upon that we needed to implement a lot of new flavour to the sequel, otherwise it would have been the same old Silent Hill. So for that, we created "The Room" as the concept for the game, so that we could use to represent the contrast between the normal and the abnormal life which changes suddenly. For the scenario we got our general influence from a book called Coin Locker Babies, which was written by a Japanese writer called Ryu Murakami. It talks about a baby abandoned in a coin locker. That was the general background.

It has always been a Silent Hill game.

That's a good interview, thanks for the link!

You're quite welcome!

As for NarooN's link: I've not read the entire thing, but it also puts forth that Silent Hill 4: The Room was always a Silent Hill game.

[Purramid_Head]

A spin off is another game. Its not the same as the main series. I was quoting that before you were a member.

[Mercury]

A spin off is another game. Its not the same as the main series. I was quoting that before you were a member.

Exactly. They've always been connected and it was always thought of as a continuation, but The Room/Room 302 was not Silent Hill, simply because it wasn't given the name in the title. Of course, all of this matters little because it doesn't factor into the final product which is a Silent Hill game.

[what]

The Room/Room 302 was not Silent Hill, simply because it wasn't given the name in the title.

The clip from the article states that The Room was intended, from the start, to be a sequel to Silent Hill 3. The Room is just a working title.

[NarooN]

...but The Room/Room 302 was not Silent Hill, simply because it wasn't given the name in the title.

That's not always true. A work doesn't need to have the same title as a previous work to be in the same series. "Death By Degrees" from 2005 wasn't called Tekken: Death By Degrees or anything, but it was still a Tekken game and took place in that universe. "Gangs of London" was still The Getaway.

[PureBlackAura]

people said SH4 was garbage, now after the "Western" games, it's a masterpiece just because KCET made it.

I think it's because at the time, they didn't really know what was really garbage.

It's more like Silent Hill fans don't know what they want in the first place. In all actuality, they never did. It's nothing more than Japanophile game dev worship.

lol well with me it has nothing to do with "Japanophile game dev worship" its just because I like mentality of Japanese horror way way more than the slashers of America which imo are not scary and actually kinda funny.

I did quite a few write-ups over at GFAQs a year+ ago about the various ex-KCET members who worked on the games, it enlightened a lot of people but you still had the token Teem Sirent blowhards denying facts anyway, or just outright ignoring them. It still makes me lol to this day how back in the day, people said SH4 was garbage, now after the "Western" games, it's a masterpiece just because KCET made it.

I'll be sure to check them out thanks for the link



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Yea, Who moved my post(thank you whoever did). I'm glad you guys are enjoying yourselves but we've kinda strayed for the original topic to SH4 which in my opinion was the creepiest in the series. I seriously had nightmares for weeks about that game. but I like the new games just as much as the old games well except Homecoming but that's a completely different story

[devil hunter]

lol well with me it has nothing to do with "Japanophile game dev worship" its just because I like mentality of Japanese horror way way more than the slashers of America which imo are not scary and actually kinda funny.

Just want to correct you about this. SH series was based on western horror. Only 4 contained some japanese horror. It's not really fair to say that americans only have slashers, even asian people have those.

There are some great american horror movies, who are not slashers, too.

[PureBlackAura]

lol well with me it has nothing to do with "Japanophile game dev worship" its just because I like mentality of Japanese horror way way more than the slashers of America which imo are not scary and actually kinda funny.

Just want to correct you about this. SH series was based on western horror. Only 4 contained some japanese horror. It's not really fair to say that americans only have slashers, even asian people have those.

There are some great american horror movies, who are not slashers, too.

such as Jacob's ladder? yea I knew that but the point I was trying to make was that there are various Japanese folklore references and such in the Silent hill series (Ex: toilet jokes and the blood everywhere around the toilet in Sh3.) but I can also see your point about the slashers (99% of Jason movies involve him stalking/ speed walking to kill someone just like Walter does in various places in SH4)

[Purramid_Head]

...but The Room/Room 302 was not Silent Hill, simply because it wasn't given the name in the title.

That's not always true. A work doesn't need to have the same title as a previous work to be in the same series. "Death By Degrees" from 2005 wasn't called Tekken: Death By Degrees or anything, but it was still a Tekken game and took place in that universe. "Gangs of London" was still The Getaway.

A side game is what it intended to be, set in the same universe but seperate from the main installments. Therefore it was intended to be somewhat automonous from the main series.

[PureBlackAura]

...but The Room/Room 302 was not Silent Hill, simply because it wasn't given the name in the title.

That's not always true. A work doesn't need to have the same title as a previous work to be in the same series. "Death By Degrees" from 2005 wasn't called Tekken: Death By Degrees or anything, but it was still a Tekken game and took place in that universe. "Gangs of London" was still The Getaway.

A side game is what it intended to be, set in the same universe but seperate from the main installments. Therefore it was intended to be somewhat automonous from the main series.

Ok, well in that case then Sh2 is a side game and if that's the case then there has only been 2 main series games.

[NarooN]

Yeah, that's what it seems. Wouldn't really make sense because most SH games are standalone. SH1 & 3 (and maybe Origins) would be the only "main series" games in that case, lol.

I guess at the time, they thought since it was such a radical new take on the series, it would be a "side game" akin to SH The Arcade or something.

[Mothersdecent]

people said SH4 was garbage, now after the "Western" games, it's a masterpiece just because KCET made it.

I think it's because at the time, they didn't really know what was really garbage.

It's more like Silent Hill fans don't know what they want in the first place. In all actuality, they never did. It's nothing more than Japanophile game dev worship.

Maybe you don't but i sure do.
Silent Hill was always supposed to be a deep, gloomy, dark, and atmospheric experience. It hasn't been any of that since 4.

[PureBlackAura]

I agree with you Mother except the SH4 part in which appeared at least to me to be a very deep, dark, and an extremely atmospheric experience

[devil hunter]

Every SH game is a dark, gloomy, atmospheric experience. It always has been that way, even after 4.

That's just my opinion.

[PureBlackAura]

Every SH game is a dark, gloomy, atmospheric experience. It always has been that way, even after 4.

That's just my opinion.

Thanks for your opinion Devil hunter, I appreciate everyone's opinions as long as their not flaming or just being a troll

[Yuki]

A spin off is another game. Its not the same as the main series. I was quoting that before you were a member.

Er... Xuchilbara, they say flat-out it was always intended to be a Silent Hill game. In fact, that magazine article specifically says:

Even though the Silent Hill 4 project was a proper sequel to the Silent Hill series, our top objective for the game was "change."

It is and always has been a Silent Hill game, not a spinoff.

[PureBlackAura]

Well there was some information from a while back that spread around from the wiki's that Silent hill 4 was originally an arcade game

[what]

Maybe you don't but i sure do.
Silent Hill was always supposed to be a deep, gloomy, dark, and atmospheric experience. It hasn't been any of that since 4.

If you can't describe what you want without using a single objective term it's probably the case that you have no idea at all what it is you really want.