Except, SHF,there's a problem with that. I'll point it out again, Alessa is never shown in white except when she turned into her image of God in SH1 and in the Order's new paintings of her in SH3. Every time she projects, every single time, she is always wearing the same outfit; the blue dress. The person was dressed in the ceremonial robes of the Order, Alessa is not dressed in them. She's in a blue dress. Even the time she causes Harry to swerve. She is never shown wearing anything else in astral form.
Xuchilbara wrote:Except, SHF,there's a problem with that. I'll point it out again, Alessa is never shown in white except when she turned into her image of God in SH1 and in the Order's new paintings of her in SH3. Every time she projects, every single time, she is always wearing the same outfit; the blue dress. The person was dressed in the ceremonial robes of the Order, Alessa is not dressed in them. She's in a blue dress. Even the time she causes Harry to swerve. She is never shown wearing anything else in astral form.
You're making it sound like she has projected several times, which she hasn't. And your'e so sure that the figure is wearing the cermemonial robe. Here is the figure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz22CqUatG0 (1:54-2:06)
There's more examples but I can't get the chapel paintings of 3 to show the hooded Alessa figure crying over god in white robes. This was the type of clothing I was referring to which is showing in 3 games. I never said Alessa projected multiple times, I said all of the projection we see she has the same clothes on. They were probably the clothes she was burned in.
The woman in white is a common depiction by the Order (Even before Alessa was born.), an IMAGE Alessa thought was God. But that image was only seen in SH1 at the end.
Though I dont really know if I believe in the Helen Grady theory, I did want to say that if it was her she could still be dead as she is most likely; it could be a manifestation of sorts?
But Im going to agree with the others and say I dont believe it is Helen and now that I think about it, it's very possible it's not even Alessa either. Although, yes, she makes this same sort of appearance in SH1, when looking at the clues and facts in Origins, it doesnt fit. I guess the only other explanation could be a cult member. Yeah, I'll go with that.
Lets Keep it simple - the figure in the road IS Dahlia Gillespie! ... after Travis takes his sweet time getting to their house Dahlia has had enough time to start the fire...
And you dont need to go on and on about robes!!! why? well because Dahlia has just been performing the spell/ritual (which requires robes!!!) on Alessa (and dont say ''but she's not wearing em when she's at the side of the house'') and not to draw attention to herself just before the fire dpt turn up, had ditched them somewhere on the run back to the house...
Why do some think Dahlia's fire (or incident involving Alessa and the ritual) was spontaneous! - ha, there is nothing spotaneous in SH... At the end of SH1 Dahlia and daughter Alessa argue at the top of the staircase - Dahlia wants some of Alessa's power but Alessa refuses - it then dawns on Dahlia that all she require's is her daughters womb (thus using her dead body so long as the spirit remains) and so sets fire to her home with Alessa still inside after performing a magical spell/incantation/soul trapping black magic (whatever) in an attempt to kill her daughter in which she succeeds!
Dahlia did not posess the Flauros at any point during Origins as it was Alessa who needed this device to counteract the birth of God (Samael/Samil) and only obtaining it through the power of Travis's mind (past, present and future)... The Flauros IS the demon (Duke of Hell) and can only be obtained by bringing forth demons from deeper within oblivion/hell/circles ect (using Travis's inner demons/mind to achieve this!)
How did Dahlia know where to be on the highway Travis was trucking on? Gyromancy - the same technique used in SH1 to foretell the coming of Harry Mason the next protagonist in the series, she explains this to Harry in the Balkan church...
Is Helen Grady alive? In the real world more than likely... did she escape? most likely she didn't - yes it took three individuals to hold her down but they still subdued her - yes Travis did manage to get into the restricted part of the sanitarium but hey - its easier getting in than getting out they say
and that concludes my novel on mr T.Grady ...
Last edited by monkeyme5 on Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:40 am.
I'm just going to be blunt about this. My first and only playthrough of the game so far and I know that wasn't Alessa in the road. I also did see a hood of some sort, although not a good look at it. But I do agree, it is probably one of the members fleeing the scene. The theory on Helen is very interesting as well btw.
I've changes my theory since the last post. I say that the figure is Dahlia, as that is the most likely of explainations in my opinion. If it's not Dahlia (which I highly doubt), then Id say another fellow Order member.