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Post by twoback on Sun May 20, 2012 4:00 pm

This might be old news to some,but after having played Silent Hill 2 in HD for the first time I noticed a fascinating little detail that gave me goosebumps and some food for thought.

Just before James enters the town I saw a newspaper laying on the ground.It shows clearly James standing in front of PH's pic at the historical society,a forewarning of events to come. James may be stuck within some kind of endless purgatory or perhaps the town is offering him a chance to turn back. Its only a minor detail,but one worthy of some discussion I thought. :D

You can see it here @ 11.49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_W9QwhAguM
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Post by what on Sun May 20, 2012 4:04 pm

Is this something new for the new version? I certainly don't remember it being there before.
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Post by twoback on Sun May 20, 2012 4:09 pm

what wrote:Is this something new for the new version? I certainly don't remember it being there before.


I've seen the newspaper before on the PS2 version,but the low res visuals made it impossible to define what it was.
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Post by Q. Valintyne on Sun May 20, 2012 7:53 pm

Oh wow. This is a fascinating find. :)
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by NarooN on Sun May 20, 2012 9:42 pm

Never saw this before. I'll definitely look for it when I decide to do my UFO run soon. Nice catch!
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Post by PureBlackAura on Sun May 20, 2012 11:40 pm

Starts up HDC (I wanna get a closer look lol)
*EDIT* 0_o that was there the whole time... dang, kudos on the find.
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Post by what on Mon May 21, 2012 12:28 am

Ugh, I wish I still had the explorer program!
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Post by PureBlackAura on Mon May 21, 2012 7:35 pm

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Must be new textures or something because this is on max graphics well ,actually max everything on the PC version and I cant see it nearly as well as on the HDC but you can "kinda" see it in the top center of the paper.

If I can I'll try to go through the texture file and try to find it.
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Post by twoback on Mon May 21, 2012 7:41 pm

Its only visible in the HD collection to my knowledge,but I think its safe to assume its always been there. It would seem odd to add it into the game after so long.
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Post by what on Mon May 21, 2012 11:22 pm

Fear not! I am here with the rescue!

Unfortunately, given what I have found, I have to conclude that you are, unfortunately, seeing the face of Jesus in toast. :c

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This is your newspaper.
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This is the same texture, reused, near the mesh door which deposits you in this screen.

These are both grabs from the PC version, enhanced to show the detail as much as possible. Which is not much in this case. I could not say what the photos on the newsprint page do look like, but it does not evoke James or Pyramid Head in the slightest for me.

If only someone can get a screenshot from the HD version somehow...

It wasn't a total loss, though. Looking around made me see more posters for The Shining in this area, plastered to the walls.
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These things are everywhere.
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Post by twoback on Tue May 22, 2012 3:43 am

I already said the image is only visible in the HD collection,so what is the point of posting PC screenshots? If I'm able,I'll try to grab a pic with my camera when I get a moment. Also from what I can see your screens arent even from the area I specified. The newspaper is situated next to a post and a mailbox after James exits the gate. Bottom right,the picture is clearly visible of James standing in front of the picture at the historical society.

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Post by devil hunter on Tue May 22, 2012 5:18 am

I played the PC version and I think I know what happened. The newspapers are different in the PC version. The newspapers twoback taken the pic of are something they added in the HD collection. I think you won't find them in any other version.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by what on Tue May 22, 2012 7:19 am

twoback wrote:I already said the image is only visible in the HD collection,so what is the point of posting PC screenshots? If I'm able,I'll try to grab a pic with my camera when I get a moment. Also from what I can see your screens arent even from the area I specified. The newspaper is situated next to a post and a mailbox after James exits the gate. Bottom right,the picture is clearly visible of James standing in front of the picture at the historical society.


1. No, what you said was you saw it in the PS2 version but could not make out the details. It's visible in both but it turns out that the HD version has entirely different textures for this object. I posted screenshots of the PC game because you did not bother pointing this fact out.

2. The images I grabbed are from the same exact area as your screenshots.

So, uh, nice find, I guess?
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Post by devil hunter on Tue May 22, 2012 7:27 am

He wasn't aware that they put new pictures in the HD version. He assumed that it wasn't visible in the PS2 version.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by what on Tue May 22, 2012 7:32 am

That's the same assumption I made, and why I don't appreciate the rebuke.
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Post by twoback on Tue May 22, 2012 7:50 am

The weird thing is,why bother re-texturing a random piece of paper when what they should have been doing is optimizing the game to run at its full potential! ;) Either that or the image was present all along but was never rendered properly.
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Post by schlaufuchsMIKE on Tue May 22, 2012 11:03 am

Considering that Hijinx got an older code, perhaps tuning down the graphics on the newspapers is what made everything fall together for the PS2 version of SH2 ;)
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Post by NarooN on Tue May 22, 2012 11:21 am

Heh, SH2 destroyed by faulty newspapers, I like that.
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Post by Mr_Dante on Tue May 22, 2012 1:18 pm

Nice find!
I guess there's a lot of reference littered around Silent Hill, the obvious ones in SH 1 with the street names etc.

I'm currently playing through Silent Hill 3, but look forward to introducing SH 1 to my girlfriend as she's never played it before and wants to 'experience' it :o
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Post by twoback on Tue May 22, 2012 5:56 pm

Image You can clearly see James and the painting on the right hand side wall.The flashlight is also illuminating the exact same area in both pictures.

Image This is the image on the newspaper.
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