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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by siha on Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:46 am

So, I am currently replaying Silent Hill 2 and a few hours ago I finally arrived at the Toluca Prison and something in the cells drew my attention. I remember the same thing happening pretty much each time I played the game. I looked it up on this board and didn't find any trace of it, so here it goes (in case it is something I missed out and that has already been talked about, just lock this topic I guess :twisted: )

In the cell in which you find the Oppressor tablet, am I the only one who noticed that before you can exit it, the door is blocked and James comments saying the bars are unbreakable or something like that? I play the game with French subtitles so I am not sure what the translation would be and I actually didn't really pay attention to the exact terms that were used and since it happens only the first time James gets in there, I could not check it out again.

Now that I know that the tablets represent James, Angela and Eddie, I was thinking that maybe locking James in the cell for a few seconds was a hint given by the SH creators to help us realize that this tablet represents him and that this cell is actually where he should be.
Or maybe it's just a glitch I get but all I can say is that we do get in two others cells (with closed doors) and this "locked door thing" only happens in this particular cell!
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by NarooN on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:19 pm

Thought I was the only one who ever noticed that. I thought it was a glitch too, but since it happened to you I guess it's part of the game. Your theory seems to be correct -- it being a reference to his "Oppressor" role.
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Post by WhiteClaudia on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:01 pm

Yep, it's part of the game :) I can't remember the reasoning for it, or if they've even said the meaning behind it, but your explanation sounds spot on to me.
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by Anapa on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:30 am

I highly doubt it's a glitch as it happens each play through. A brilliant idea it is though I never 'noticed' myself, I was too busy being frantic in attempt to get out.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by siha on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:21 pm

Well, at least now I know for sure it's not a glitch. I'll admit I only noticed it the past 3-4 times I played it!
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by TheHWord on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:44 pm

Naroon nailed it. It's just a more literal play on "Oppressor". :D
Isn't it in the same hallway where you can hear the noises above, or is that the opposite one?
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by siha on Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:58 am

I believe you can hear the noises in both hallways!
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by FBX on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:11 am

I like how you can take aim and kill the invisible 'ritual' monster that stomps around in his cell. The angle of the aim James takes suggests the monster is 8 or 9 feet tall!
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by siha on Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:48 pm

I never saw it this way! Always thought the monster was like floating near the ceiling or just one weird monster hanging up there.
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by TheHWord on Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:29 pm

Am I the only one who jumps to the conclusion that it's PH fumbling around up there? The deep voice would be something that'd fit the executioners, I think.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by NarooN on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:14 pm

iirc there are two "prisoners" in the game. Don't think it was PH's voice or anything since PH never speaks, though I think he moaned or something in the apartment when James starts shooting at him.
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Post by FBX on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:58 am

Whatever it is, it's invisible. I've specifically been able to view right where it drops dead, and there's no visible model.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Post by NarooN on Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:31 pm

Yeah, there's no actual model file for it iirc, at least it doesn't render anything. I'm sure that was intentional.
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Something I noticed in a cell in the Toluca Prison

Post by Deadalux on Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:44 pm

I love this part of the game, too.
Its so heavy and disturbing.
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