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Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:45 pm
by Otherworld
I always thought Alessa used Travis as a conduit. He did what she needed him to do while Travise was dealing with his own demons as well.
Origins laid the groundwork for what was written on the BOLM regarding what happened to it after the 1st game and how it ended up calling to those with guilt. It seems like Travis was the 1st one.,
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:39 am
by Xuchilbara
It actually contradicts BOLM, quite a bit.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:29 pm
by Otherworld
Xuchilbara wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:39 am
It actually contradicts BOLM, quite a bit.
It definitely does contradict BOLM as well. The way I look at it now is that it is canon and has to be worked into the lore one way or another.
I am just trying to make sense of it all.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:52 pm
by rodox_head
I really wish the game was better put together, because I still love it to bits. I like the idea of Travis being a surrogate/metaphorical "big brother" to Alessa in the Alessa/Cheryl/Heather life cycle. It's kinda fitting since both Travis and Heather wear a winter vest and a necklace given to them by their respective fathers as children.
It's just my silly head-canon, though.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:41 pm
by firecrest
Otherworld wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:29 pmThe way I look at it now is that it is canon and has to be worked into the lore one way or another.
I am just trying to make sense of it all.
I think an updated BOLM-like guidebook could be written that includes Origins.
The way I look at BOLM is that it includes canon explanation for the first three games if they made up the entire series. Silent Hill 4 -The Room- is from the original team, but one could argue that it has contradictory info to BOLM, too. That does not mean SH4 should be considered non-canon.
It's inevitable that when more games enter the series, its lore should also be expanded and tweaked.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:57 pm
by Otherworld
firecrest wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:41 pm
Otherworld wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 3:29 pmThe way I look at it now is that it is canon and has to be worked into the lore one way or another.
I am just trying to make sense of it all.
I think an updated BOLM-like guidebook could be written that includes Origins.
The way I look at BOLM is that it includes canon explanation for the first three games if they made up the entire series. Silent Hill 4 -The Room- is from the original team, but one could argue that it has contradictory info to BOLM, too. That does not mean SH4 should be considered non-canon.
It's inevitable that when more games enter the series, its lore should also be expanded and tweaked.
The reality here is Origins is canon. I wish the devs ensured that they did not contradict BOLM. But we got what we got so we have to work with it.
Another Crimson Tome takes care of 4.
Anything after that depends upon the devs' knowledge and willingness to either conform or contradict BOLM.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:46 am
by Xuchilbara
Either way I blame Konami since they weren't in communication as much with earlier devs or source material.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:18 pm
by Otherworld
Xuchilbara wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:46 am
Either way I blame Konami since they weren't in communication as much with earlier devs or source material.
It all lies at Konami's feet. The unabashed carelessness shown by Konami for this IP is horrible.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:17 am
by rodox_head
Xuchilbara wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:39 am
It actually contradicts BOLM, quite a bit.
Honest question: What exactly are the contradictions? I've always heard it had them, but never really knew for sure what they were and to what severity. The only thing I've really known about was the initial cause of the fire, but I never really took that as a severe retcon.
Re: Alessa's use of Travis
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:50 pm
by floatstinger
I've always thought, for the time they were given, Origins was an underrated and good game that borders on great. A longer run time, and more time in general, could have made it even better.